# Daniel Kokotajlo

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Real Alpha has cut 6 moments of Daniel Kokotajlo (Executive Director, AI Futures Project) talking, from an interview on The Diary Of A CEO published Jul 13, 2026.

- Role: Executive Director, AI Futures Project
- About: Lead author of AI 2027. He left OpenAI's governance team in 2024 and now runs the AI Futures Project, a forecasting nonprofit.
- On X: https://x.com/DKokotajlo

## What Daniel Kokotajlo said

- [AI labs plan to automate their own research first](https://realalpha.app/s/ai-labs-plan-to-automate-their-own-research-first/)
  The Diary Of A CEO · Jul 13, 2026 · 7 min
  > “The next step, which they've already begun, is to look at the rest of the research process as well.” — Daniel Kokotajlo · [19:57](https://realalpha.app/v/_g4l7YkDQwA/?t=1197)
- [Plan A would slow AI and make frontier research transparent](https://realalpha.app/s/plan-a-would-slow-ai-and-make-frontier-research-transparent/)
  The Diary Of A CEO · Jul 13, 2026 · 8 min
  > “We advocate for total research transparency, which means that on the training data centers that are training the new models, they basically have to publish everything.” — Daniel Kokotajlo · [1:20:03](https://realalpha.app/v/_g4l7YkDQwA/?t=4803)
- [OpenAI's expected safety pause gave way to continued racing](https://realalpha.app/s/openais-expected-safety-pause-gave-way-to-continued-racing/)
  The Diary Of A CEO · Jul 13, 2026 · 3 min
  > “once we started getting to AIs that could maybe automate the AI research process, we would pause and figure out how to make it safe.” — Daniel Kokotajlo · [13:39](https://realalpha.app/v/_g4l7YkDQwA/?t=819)
- [AI could erase the usual path from one job to another](https://realalpha.app/s/ai-could-erase-the-usual-path-from-one-job-to-another/)
  The Diary Of A CEO · Jul 13, 2026 · 3 min
  > “But we are talking about a hypothetical future situation in which everything gets automated.” — Daniel Kokotajlo · [56:19](https://realalpha.app/v/_g4l7YkDQwA/?t=3379)
- [Job loss could also strip people of political power](https://realalpha.app/s/job-loss-could-also-strip-people-of-political-power/)
  The Diary Of A CEO · Jul 13, 2026 · 4 min
  > “when people lose their jobs, they're not just threatened with loss of income, they're also threatened with loss of political power.” — Daniel Kokotajlo · [1:35:26](https://realalpha.app/v/_g4l7YkDQwA/?t=5726)
- [He would not permanently shut down AI, though he is torn](https://realalpha.app/s/he-would-not-permanently-shut-down-ai-though-he-is-torn/)
  The Diary Of A CEO · Jul 13, 2026 · 4 min
  > “The people right now are the people we should prioritize.” — Daniel Kokotajlo · [1:49:16](https://realalpha.app/v/_g4l7YkDQwA/?t=6556)

## The episode

- [ChatGPT Whistleblower: They Offered Me $2m To Keep Quiet, No One Is Ready For What's Coming!](https://realalpha.app/v/_g4l7YkDQwA/) · The Diary Of A CEO · Jul 13, 2026