# Devon Thomas

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Real Alpha has cut 4 moments of Devon Thomas (Co-founder & CEO, Abliteration) talking, from an interview on MTS published Oct 17, 2026.

- Role: Co-founder & CEO, Abliteration
- About: Co-founded Abliteration, which sells API access to refusal-free open-weight models for cyber defenders and red teams.
- Company: [Abliteration](https://realalpha.app/companies/#abliteration)
- On X: https://x.com/founderengineer

## What Devon Thomas said

- [Cyber defenders welcomed access to less-restricted models](https://realalpha.app/s/cyber-defenders-welcomed-access-to-less-restricted-models/)
  MTS · Oct 17, 2026 · 2 min
  > “But for the most part, all of our customers were really excited to have access to these models and to better be able to defend their own products.” — Devon Thomas · [1:46](https://realalpha.app/v/x27dRYsWOEc/?t=106)
- [Defenders need to test systems before attackers do](https://realalpha.app/s/defenders-need-to-test-systems-before-attackers-do/)
  MTS · Oct 17, 2026 · 3 min
  > “so like I said, so the point is, is that you can test your own system before some bad actor tests your system for you.” — Devon Thomas · [4:17](https://realalpha.app/v/x27dRYsWOEc/?t=257)
- [Customers can define guardrails for their own deployments](https://realalpha.app/s/customers-can-define-guardrails-for-their-own-deployments/)
  MTS · Oct 17, 2026 · 2 min
  > “we do have a feature where in like natural language or otherwise they can set their own guardrails that works for like their organization” — Devon Thomas · [19:26](https://realalpha.app/v/x27dRYsWOEc/?t=1166)
- [Access limits can reduce misuse but cannot eliminate it](https://realalpha.app/s/access-limits-can-reduce-misuse-but-cannot-eliminate-it/)
  MTS · Oct 17, 2026 · 3 min
  > “it's always going to be best effort and i don't think you ever get to a point where it's 100 but you always try” — Devon Thomas · [10:12](https://realalpha.app/v/x27dRYsWOEc/?t=612)

## The episode

- [Model Refusals Don't Stop Hackers | Devon Thomas](https://realalpha.app/v/x27dRYsWOEc/) · MTS · Oct 17, 2026