# John Coogan

Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/people/john-coogan/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy.

Real Alpha has cut 2 moments of John Coogan (Co-host, TBPN) talking, from an interview on TBPN published Oct 9, 2026.

- Role: Co-host, TBPN
- On X: https://x.com/johncoogan

## What John Coogan said

- [Open-source models trail closed ones by about six months](https://realalpha.app/s/open-source-models-trail-closed-ones-by-about-six-months/)
  TBPN · Oct 9, 2026 · 5 min
  > “This is different because we're getting this capability before we've really characterized the shape of the threat.” — John Coogan · [6:21](https://realalpha.app/v/7Svao3YGtp0/?t=381)
- [Locking down open source clashes with crypto's libertarian roots](https://realalpha.app/s/locking-down-open-source-clashes-with-cryptos-libertarian/)
  TBPN · Oct 9, 2026 · 3 min
  > “the doom scenario becomes like way more human enabled if you are able to amass capital pretty quickly as a rogue agent.” — John Coogan · [11:00](https://realalpha.app/v/7Svao3YGtp0/?t=660)

## The episode

- [Crypto Going Bunker Mode, AI Mathpocalypse, Starbucks Explores Chipotle Takeover | Diet TBPN](https://realalpha.app/v/7Svao3YGtp0/) · TBPN · Oct 9, 2026