# Joscha Bach

Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/people/joscha-bach/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy.

Real Alpha has cut 3 moments of Joscha Bach (Executive director, CIMC) talking, from 2 interviews on Machine Learning Street Talk and Minus One, the latest published Nov 2, 2026.

- Role: Executive director, CIMC
- About: Developed cognitive architectures and leads CIMC's research into machine consciousness and models of the mind.
- On X: https://x.com/Plinz

## What Joscha Bach said

- [Consciousness may be a learning algorithm for animal brains](https://realalpha.app/s/consciousness-may-be-a-learning-algorithm-for-animal-brains/)
  Machine Learning Street Talk · Nov 2, 2026 · 8 min
  > “might be a biological learning algorithm, a training algorithm for animal brains” — Joscha Bach · [33:17](https://realalpha.app/v/yW_ngvMFlYs/?t=1997)
- [Vision models can converge on the same features](https://realalpha.app/s/vision-models-can-converge-on-the-same-features/)
  Machine Learning Street Talk · Nov 2, 2026 · 8 min
  > “it really depends on the structure of the problem that you are trying to learn.” — Joscha Bach · [42:02](https://realalpha.app/v/yW_ngvMFlYs/?t=2522)
- [Joscha Bach says AI advanced through scale, not a master algorithm](https://realalpha.app/s/joscha-bach-says-ai-advanced-through-scale-not-a-master/)
  Minus One · May 21, 2025 · 3 min
  > “We didn't think that the answer to AGI would be use more compute and more data.” — Joscha Bach · [12:08](https://realalpha.app/v/J7FN53FqB1U/?t=728)

## The 2 episodes

- [Why Consciousness Might Not Be Hard At All (Joscha Bach)](https://realalpha.app/v/yW_ngvMFlYs/) · Machine Learning Street Talk · Nov 2, 2026
- [AGI, Sci-Fi, & Storytelling | Neal Stephenson, Ken Liu, Cyan Banister, & Joscha Bach](https://realalpha.app/v/J7FN53FqB1U/) · Minus One · May 21, 2025