# AI may move education from knowledge delivery to practice

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- Speaker: [Mustafa Suleyman](https://realalpha.app/builders/mustafa-suleyman/) · Mustafa Suleyman is CEO of Microsoft AI and cofounder of DeepMind. · Co-founded DeepMind and Inflection AI, and now leads Microsoft AI's push to build state-of-the-art models.
- Host: [Marina Mogilko](https://realalpha.app/people/marina-mogilko/) · Host, Silicon Valley Girl · Co-founded LinguaTrip and built Linguamarina, an English-learning YouTube channel with almost 9M subscribers.
- Show: Silicon Valley Girl
- Episode: [CEO of Microsoft AI:The Next 10 Years Will Change Humanity Forever](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/), Nov 14, 2025
- Moment: 18:58 to 23:50 of the episode (5 min), playing on https://realalpha.app/s/ai-may-move-education-from-knowledge-delivery-to-practice/; the episode from there: https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1138

## Quote

> “So the classroom is going to look more like **practicing using your knowledge**.”
> — [Mustafa Suleyman](https://realalpha.app/builders/mustafa-suleyman/) at [22:08](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1328) · Silicon Valley Girl

## Takeaways

1. AI tutors could handle much of the direct teaching outside class.
2. Classrooms may focus more on applying knowledge and learning with others.
3. Children still need discipline and the ability to teach themselves.

## About this segment

Mustafa Suleyman expects AI tutors to make knowledge cheap and personalized, while classrooms focus on applying it together. He still values effort and self-teaching, not frictionless shortcuts.

From “CEO of Microsoft AI:The Next 10 Years Will Change Humanity Forever”, Nov 14, 2025. [Watch the full episode](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/)

## Transcript

Transcribed by machine (Whisper) from the episode’s audio, so a word may be off here and there.

[19:04](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1144) Like you mentioned that access to knowledge is now democratized. What's going to happen to traditional education? Will we see the standard like bachelor's, master's, where we basically spend five or six years just acquiring knowledge? Yeah, I don't think so. I think that knowledge acquisition is going to be a conversation between you and, you know, co-pilot. So, for example, another feature that we just launched today, in fact, is this learn live feature.

[19:30](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1170) So you actually have a tutor shows up on the screen and it will lay out a quiz for you on any topic that you like. So it doesn't have to be a school curriculum topic. You might be learning about cacti or, you know, Persian rugs. It will give you an education on it, lay out the kind of curriculum piece by piece, give you a nice quiz, present it in a nice graphical user interface. And so knowledge acquisition is about to get completely decentralized and available to everybody.

[20:00](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1200) And you just have an expert teacher in your pocket on any subject. Does this mean all education businesses are dead? I'm thinking about my apps. It's the opposite. I think education businesses that adopt these kinds of AI tools and integrate them as quickly as possible, that they're really going to flourish. It's happening like that for everything. I mean, now in Copilot, you can also generate a podcast literally in a minute. It's a great introductory thing. Like the other day I generate, I don't really follow football or like soccer, but I do support Arsenal because I'm from London. And when I go back to London to see my friends, I want to like, you know, know what I'm talking about a little bit.

[20:38](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1238) So I asked Copilot to generate me a podcast on how Arsenal is doing in the season and what the latest is with the transfers and who are the best players and stuff like that. So just like fun, you know, simple bits of information are perfect. And now I'm in the gym listening to a little five, seven minute podcast about that. Going back to knowledge and education, should I be saving for my kids' college or not?

[21:00](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1260) They're five and four. So 15 years time. Yeah. Probably not. there you go i don't know it's really hard to judge i'm not sure that we will value a stanford education um that costs i don't know what does it cost 50 grand a year or something is it more something crazy 50 is a private school here right i mean i just i don't i think that we're going to have world-class expertise on tap that costs 20 bucks a month but what if like for example right now i'm educated and like i said maths economics so i can have these conversations if i completely abandon acquisition of knowledge how can i have an argument it's not like i'm always talking to my phone right well you could you could still argue about stuff if anything it'll probably make us all more argumentative because we'll be even more knowledgeable we

[21:58](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1318) We want to be exchanging ideas with people, right? Yeah, I mean, but since you base your arguments on things that you've acquired when learning something. Yeah, but that's kind of my point is that the knowledge acquisition in the traditional form, in the classroom, you know, with the textbook, that's going to shift entirely. So the classroom is going to look more like practicing using your knowledge.

[22:20](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1340) So you'd acquire more knowledge if I do it the other way around with AI. Exactly. Okay. Because then as a kid, you're going to be able to talk to your AI tutor at any time during the day. You're going to learn from the AI podcast. You're going to learn from the AI video that is going to be generated. So all the kind of straightforward teaching is going to take place with the student and the AI. And then when you come into the classroom for your day, the students are going to be talking to each other about the knowledge that they've acquired from their AI and debating and learning to be more empathetic.

[22:54](https://realalpha.app/v/SP76PvgMzVU/?t=1374) be better listeners and adjust their tone and you know that kind of thing. So what do you think parents should be teaching their kids now? I think it's still important to be good at like learning knowledge from first principles yourself and not depending on the sort of AI tutor leading you through. Like I think one of the most important things is from school is the discipline of being able to teach yourself that's a meta skill and that you know that that comes with friction so i think as a parent you still have to introduce like discipline and friction into the process because if it comes all too slowly and it's always on tap you know then then there's a risk that the child could just get used to having everything instantly available and doesn't learn from the hard work um you know the benefits of hard work which i think are important so that's like something