# Pushp says assertive government sped up Indian reforms

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- Speaker: [Naman Pushp](https://realalpha.app/people/naman-pushp/) · Naman Pushp is founder and CEO of Airbound.
- Host: [Ashlee Vance](https://realalpha.app/people/ashlee-vance/) · CEO, Core Memory · Wrote the best-selling biography Elon Musk; covered tech for Bloomberg Businessweek, The Economist and The New York Times.
- Show: Core Memory
- Episode: [He's Taking On Amazon With A New Kind Of Aircraft](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/), Nov 4, 2026
- Moment: 1:04:29 to 1:07:40 of the episode (3 min), playing on https://realalpha.app/s/pushp-says-assertive-government-sped-up-indian-reforms/; the episode from there: https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/?t=3869

## Quote

> “I think that India as a country needed very, very dramatic change and it **needed that change very quickly**.”
> — [Naman Pushp](https://realalpha.app/people/naman-pushp/) at [1:05:57](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/?t=3957) · Core Memory

## Takeaways

1. He favors assertive government to make rapid changes.
2. He credits the government with cleaner bureaucracy and easier business.
3. He says the long-term democratic tradeoff remains unclear.

## About this segment

He argues India needed rapid change and says a government able to assert its will helped deliver it. He also warns that reduced democracy can slide toward dictatorship.

From “He's Taking On Amazon With A New Kind Of Aircraft”, Nov 4, 2026. [Watch the full episode](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/)

## Transcript

From the transcript Core Memory publishes with the episode.

[1:04:34](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/?t=3874) Yeah. When I get optimistic, you know, I came back so optimistic about what I saw going on in India. And then I have many, many Indian friends and talk to them and they're like, dude, don't get your hopes up. That place is going to undermine itself. The government is too bureaucratic. There's too much corruption. Yeah. It's just the infrastructure is, they're like, don't, don't, don't get your hopes up.

[1:05:00](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/?t=3900) It's not fully going to happen. And then, you know, when I was there, you know, like everybody I talked to was like reticent to sort of criticize the government and push back. Obviously they would when our cameras were not on, but not when the cameras were on. I mean, is it hard to like operate in that environment? Is that true? Is it, It is an interesting question.

[1:05:28](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/?t=3928) And I think India... India sort of plays... Because, again, I think democracy is a spectrum. And I think it is not controversial to say that India is not as democratic as the US or not as democratic as other countries. The US is also not the most democratic country in the world.

[1:05:48](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/?t=3948) We have our moments. This is probably not peak. So that's there. But I also... I also don't think that peak democracy is necessarily the best way to run a country. I think that India as a country needed very, very dramatic change and it needed that change very quickly. And I think a government that can assert its will is the most effective way to get that change done. The reality is that I don't think a highly...

[1:06:25](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/?t=3985) Maybe they could, but I just think that for a very democratic government, like a government that was just constantly listening to the people at every moment, I don't think it would have been able to provide this unified vision for the country and change the country as deeply and dramatically as it has. And I do think that the country has meaningfully changed for the better. Now, is this a good long-term pathway?

[1:06:49](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/?t=4009) That is unclear, right? And I think that is really the... The sort of threat with countries that, you know, slowly lose their democracy, because if that slips away too much, then you end up in a dictatorship and you end up with a lot of issues. I don't think India will necessarily end up there. I think there are obviously risks to, you know, the way it is run. But I also think that you can't deny, like, these two things kind of go hand in hand.

[1:07:16](https://realalpha.app/v/vACBrKGKdH4/?t=4036) You can't The reason why corruption has lowered so much from 10 years ago, the reason why bureaucracy has become so much cleaner, the reason why just ease of business has improved so much from where it was previously, that trend line being so sharp is very much thanks to the government.