# Slower timelines could increase human power-grab risks

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- Speaker: [Katja Grace](https://realalpha.app/people/katja-grace/) · Founder, AI Impacts · Co-founded AI Impacts and leads research on AI forecasting and its likely impacts on society.
- Host: Zershaaneh Qureshi
- Show: 80,000 Hours Podcast
- Episode: [AI Overlords vs Power-hungry Humans: Which Should Scare You More?](https://realalpha.app/v/FHCxnHU6jFQ/), Sep 29, 2026
- Moment: 14:25 to 17:37 of the episode (3 min), playing on https://realalpha.app/s/slower-timelines-could-increase-human-power-grab-risks/; the episode from there: https://realalpha.app/v/FHCxnHU6jFQ/?t=865

## Quote

> “So I do, I think that even in a slower scenario, you are increasing the **background risk of extreme human power** concentration as it plays out.”
> — [Katja Grace](https://realalpha.app/people/katja-grace/) at [17:20](https://realalpha.app/v/FHCxnHU6jFQ/?t=1040) · 80,000 Hours Podcast

## Takeaways

1. Tom thinks faster timelines raise AI takeover risk more.
2. Katja expects slower scenarios to worsen conditions for power grabs.
3. Their timeline assumptions change which risk seems likelier.

## About this segment

Tom says shorter timelines raise both risks; Katja Grace says slower timelines can worsen inequality, weaken democracy, and widen unequal AI access. This could shift which threat is likelier.

From “AI Overlords vs Power-hungry Humans: Which Should Scare You More?”, Sep 29, 2026. [Watch the full episode](https://realalpha.app/v/FHCxnHU6jFQ/)

## Transcript

Transcribed by machine (Whisper) from the episode’s audio, so a word may be off here and there.

[14:28](https://realalpha.app/v/FHCxnHU6jFQ/?t=868) um yeah I think something I'm unsure of here is how um the like your kind of background assumptions are maybe influencing the way that you're thinking about these problems so I believe Tom that you think that we're maybe a bit further away from getting like very worryingly capable AI systems than Katya does. And I'm kind of wondering how you think your views might change if you thought that we were getting advanced AI sooner? Sure. I mean, I should say I think all the arguments I've made so far kind of apply across different timelines. If AI does come in the next few years then i think that basically makes both the risks larger i think it means that we're not going to have time to solve misalignment so i think misalignment risk becomes much larger if ai timelines are very short but similarly that the risk of an ai company um seizing power becomes

[15:26](https://realalpha.app/v/FHCxnHU6jFQ/?t=926) larger because the rest of the world just have less time to understand the risk um and respond appropriately um and because i think if if timelines are very short and there's likely to be a more um more dramatic takeoff and so then there's there's a larger probability that the leading ai company you know has massively more intelligent ais than everyone else and similarly if timelines are short then um then i think it's again more plausible that the the executive branch of the u.s wakes up to how powerful ai is but other parts of civil society don't and so that that I'll see you next time.

[16:00](https://realalpha.app/v/FHCxnHU6jFQ/?t=960) and the power concentration also seems higher. But yes, I think overall, AI takeover risk goes up in likelihood more than extreme human power concentration goes up in likelihood if timelines are shorter. Sorry, if they're shorter, then pushes toward AI. Yes. Interesting. I think the opposite. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. To the extent that the human power grab seems more like it requires There's a route to grabbing power, then I think that is much more likely to exist in fast scenarios where we haven't had time to notice gaps and so on, where there might be a possibility for that.

[16:48](https://realalpha.app/v/FHCxnHU6jFQ/?t=1008) I'll just briefly say that I think human power grabs would be more likely if economic equality was much larger, and they would be more likely if democracy was more eroded. And they'd be more likely if certain people had had a long time where they'd had access to much more powerful AI assistance than other people. And that all of those kind of background conditions are things that I expect to happen in a slower scenario because of the way in which people's labels stop being valuable.

[17:23](https://realalpha.app/v/FHCxnHU6jFQ/?t=1043) So I do, I think that even in a slower scenario, you are increasing the background risk of extreme human power concentration as it plays out. Because you're sort of just like worsening the situation at all counts.