# SpaceX sees orbit as a faster site for AI compute

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- Speaker: [Gwynne Shotwell](https://realalpha.app/builders/gwynne-shotwell/) · President & COO, SpaceX · SpaceX's president and chief operating officer since 2008, who runs the company day to day.
- Host: [Chamath Palihapitiya](https://realalpha.app/people/chamath-palihapitiya/) · Founder & CEO, Social Capital · Led Facebook's growth team; his firm backed Slack and AI chipmaker Groq.
- Host: [Jason Calacanis](https://realalpha.app/people/jason-calacanis/) · Founder & CEO, LAUNCH · Early Uber angel; sold Weblogs Inc. to AOL; hosts This Week in Startups.
- Host: [David Sacks](https://realalpha.app/people/david-sacks/) · Co-founder & partner, Craft Ventures · PayPal's first COO, founded Yammer; White House AI & crypto czar 2025–26.
- Host: [David Friedberg](https://realalpha.app/people/david-friedberg/) · CEO, Ohalo · Founded The Climate Corporation, sold to Monsanto for about $1.1B in 2013.
- Show: All-In
- Episode: [Elon Musk & Gwynne Shotwell on AI Risks and Peer Review, Starship, Terafab, SpaceX/Tesla Merger](https://realalpha.app/v/iwBOQeFPAwg/), Sep 15, 2026
- Moment: 18:21 to 21:59 of the episode (4 min), playing on https://realalpha.app/s/spacex-sees-orbit-as-a-faster-site-for-ai-compute/; the episode from there: https://realalpha.app/v/iwBOQeFPAwg/?t=1101

## Quote

> “The real estate in space is, you know, infinite. **It's free. It's free**. You don't have to pay for it.”
> — [Gwynne Shotwell](https://realalpha.app/builders/gwynne-shotwell/) at [19:56](https://realalpha.app/v/iwBOQeFPAwg/?t=1196) · All-In

## Takeaways

1. Permits and power equipment can slow data-center construction on Earth.
2. SpaceX sees its launch capability as an advantage in orbit.
3. Shotwell says AI-compute satellites are planned for next year.

## About this segment

Gwynne Shotwell argues that terrestrial land, power equipment and permits slow data-center buildouts, while launch, solar power and radiative cooling make orbit attractive. She says AI-compute satellites are planned for next year.

From “Elon Musk & Gwynne Shotwell on AI Risks and Peer Review, Starship, Terafab, SpaceX/Tesla Merger”, Sep 15, 2026. [Watch the full episode](https://realalpha.app/v/iwBOQeFPAwg/)

## Transcript

Transcribed by machine (Whisper) from the episode’s audio, so a word may be off here and there.

[18:34](https://realalpha.app/v/iwBOQeFPAwg/?t=1114) So hopefully you build trust and you are as transparent as you can possibly be. Tell us about data centers in space. Elon. Supercompute. We have to rebrand data centers. Supercompute. Supercompute in space. Yes. Elon's very excited about this. I'm very excited about it. Yeah, why? Why is this so compelling? Because it seems, I think we're going to get through this anti-data center on Earth thing, but take us through the case of why this makes sense to put them in space, because there's expense to put them in space.

[19:08](https://realalpha.app/v/iwBOQeFPAwg/?t=1148) Walk us through in the audience. But there is an expense to put data centers on the ground too, right? You have to buy real estate. And as soon as someone finds out that a data center or a supercomputer center is going in, real estate goes from 3,000 an acre to 180,000 an acre. So it's quite expensive. Time lag is incredible. The permits and the licensing is pretty stifling. Now we're, space business is that way. It's incredibly bureaucratic. So we've learned those lessons. But so time from breaking ground to being able to actually build something, not even get your compute, right? Not even get to compute but just have a building long timelines to get electrical equipment like people are talking about generators in three years right like we need compute now the demand is insatiable right now people need compute now we need it now so why data centers in space we own launch

[20:02](https://realalpha.app/v/iwBOQeFPAwg/?t=1202) right we have great launch capability so we feel like we and that path is very well known. The real estate in space is, you know, infinite. It's free. It's free. You don't have to pay for it. The cooling is there. You know, the radiator looks at the deep space. It's the coldest thing ever out there. So free cooling. The sun, Elon probably has, you've probably heard Elon talk about the power of the sun. You know, we use a millionth of a millionth of the sun's energy and you basically put these satellites in orbit that always face the sun by the way so you don't have solar panels on your house and you only get sun for eight hours a day and your sister company is going to start making 100 gigawatts of the solar panels that you need for the sun and we'll be making our own solar panels too okay yeah we're

[20:54](https://realalpha.app/v/iwBOQeFPAwg/?t=1254) building a factory and outside of austin maybe sometime end of next year you get one of those up there start testing it and then oh for sure 28 29 somebody could be a customer of this product or service maybe? So next year we will be launching, we'll launch this year our V3 satellite for Starlink broadband. We will launch our next gen version two, sorry about all the version, we have version control problems, version two of the Starlink mobile. So instead of having to use other people's spectrum, we'll be able to use Charlie's, now our spectrum. And we're also going to launch AI compute satellites. So next year's a big year. And you need Starship up and running for that we don't have to but starship is so much more it's a much better machine yeah yeah when you first encountered the white sheet design of starship what did you think

[21:42](https://realalpha.app/v/iwBOQeFPAwg/?t=1302) when like you walk into that first meeting like guys we have this it's like almost all the things