# Tech leaders' investor duties shape their choices

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- Speaker: [Neal Stephenson](https://realalpha.app/people/neal-stephenson/) · Neal Stephenson is author of Snow Crash, The Diamond Age and D: Heavy Water. · Author of Snow Crash and The Diamond Age who coined 'metaverse' and co-founded Lamina1, an open-metaverse blockchain.
- Host: [Ashlee Vance](https://realalpha.app/people/ashlee-vance/) · CEO, Core Memory · Wrote the best-selling biography Elon Musk; covered tech for Bloomberg Businessweek, The Economist and The New York Times.
- Show: Core Memory
- Episode: [Neal Stephenson On AI And What Comes Next](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/), Oct 28, 2026
- Moment: 25:02 to 27:47 of the episode (3 min), playing on https://realalpha.app/s/tech-leaders-investor-duties-shape-their-choices/; the episode from there: https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=1502

## Quote

> “when you're running one of these companies, you have to make certain business **decisions based on business**, not on kind of highfalutin ethical considerations.”
> — [Neal Stephenson](https://realalpha.app/people/neal-stephenson/) at [26:34](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=1594) · Core Memory

## Takeaways

1. Fiduciary duties to investors are legally enforceable.
2. Boards can replace leaders who fail to meet those duties.
3. Ethical intent can conflict with business obligations.

## About this segment

Neal Stephenson says fiduciary duties and the threat of board replacement push leaders toward business decisions. That helps explain why personal ethics may not control a company's choices.

From “Neal Stephenson On AI And What Comes Next”, Oct 28, 2026. [Watch the full episode](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/)

## Transcript

Transcribed by machine (Whisper) from the episode’s audio, so a word may be off here and there.

[25:06](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=1506) Whereas in this case, you have companies and individuals. And I mean, look, everybody knows I tend to be more on the optimistic side and fascinated by all this stuff. but there's large just you know i don't know when this podcast will air but as we're recording this i think we've got a movie coming out on mark zuckerberg sam altman elon musk spf and elizabeth holmes none of these movies are flattering yeah people do not trust trust these people now um yeah just as somebody who's like explored this intellectually i'm just curious what you make Well, I mean, you know, you start a company, if you're lucky, it grows, it gets big, and then you find yourself having a fiduciary responsibility, you know, a legally enforceable fiduciary responsibility to pay the investors back and pay them back, you know, as much as you can.

[26:12](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=1572) And if you don't take all necessary steps to do that, then the board will replace you. And unless you're really smart, that is, and you've got special shares that make that impossible. But the point is still the same is that I think when you're running one of these companies, you have to make certain business decisions based on business, not on kind of highfalutin ethical considerations. And that's the dilemma that these people are in.

[26:57](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=1617) They may not necessarily be amoral people, but, you know, they got to do what they got to do. And I said you're a little, I don't know if reluctant is the right word, or, you know, it's hard to generalize across five, six individuals. But you don't seem to want to be casting judgment on our current batch of tech overlords, is my sense. Well, I mean, they're all different people, right? So, I mean, it's hard to make – I'm trying to speak in general terms.

[27:32](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=1652) And so what I've said is kind of broadly true of anybody in that position. I don't know the specific decisions that these individuals have to make necessarily.