# Unproven launch systems struggle to insure payloads

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- Speaker: [Neal Stephenson](https://realalpha.app/people/neal-stephenson/) · Neal Stephenson is author of Snow Crash, The Diamond Age and D: Heavy Water. · Author of Snow Crash and The Diamond Age who coined 'metaverse' and co-founded Lamina1, an open-metaverse blockchain.
- Host: [Ashlee Vance](https://realalpha.app/people/ashlee-vance/) · CEO, Core Memory · Wrote the best-selling biography Elon Musk; covered tech for Bloomberg Businessweek, The Economist and The New York Times.
- Show: Core Memory
- Episode: [Neal Stephenson On AI And What Comes Next](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/), Oct 28, 2026
- Moment: 1:20:32 to 1:22:58 of the episode (2 min), playing on https://realalpha.app/s/unproven-launch-systems-struggle-to-insure-payloads/; the episode from there: https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=4832

## Quote

> “come up with the coolest new idea imaginable and it would never go anywhere commercially because **it would be uninsurable**.”
> — [Neal Stephenson](https://realalpha.app/people/neal-stephenson/) at [1:22:11](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=4931) · Core Memory

## Takeaways

1. Satellite payloads can be far more valuable than the launch itself.
2. Insurers may not cover radically new launch systems.
3. Delays can cost satellite owners months of lost revenue.

## About this segment

Neal Stephenson explains why a radical rocket can fail commercially even if it works: satellite owners need reliability and insurance. Proven launch providers win when delays put valuable payloads at risk.

From “Neal Stephenson On AI And What Comes Next”, Oct 28, 2026. [Watch the full episode](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/)

## Transcript

Transcribed by machine (Whisper) from the episode’s audio, so a word may be off here and there.

[1:20:35](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=4835) see well yeah it's interesting that um i i think you know one thing that we did figure out it was sort of like a cold water in the face moment was that um the business of space at least then probably now is essentially launching these huge satellites up to geo that are incredibly expensive and um and their time is incredibly valuable yeah and if you uh so to begin with the cost of the rocket itself is kind of a round off error you know it's just it's compared to everything else yeah i mean i yeah to launch even if it was expensive lockheed or something's 300 million those satellites could be like two billion dollars each yeah and the um uh you need insurance you know and you're not going to get insurance on um a brand new launch you know a radically new launch concept um and um um i i assume that's why elon launched that car

[1:21:46](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=4906) into space you know he had to to show that he could uh could could do it yeah but no one was gonna risk a expensive satellite you know until that was on the first falcon heavy one i think yeah yeah um yes well and i think elon wanted i'm sure i'm sure yeah but but but the the it was a cold water moment in that we kind of realized oh man you know we could you know come up with the coolest new idea imaginable and it would never go anywhere commercially because it would be uninsurable. If one of these launches gets delayed by a few weeks or a few months by technical issues, then that's a few weeks or a few months that it's not generating revenue for the owner of that satellite and that's an enormous loss yeah so why not just pay lockheed to send the thing up you know okay i'm looking at the time i'm really pushing my limits now i have to let

[1:22:51](https://realalpha.app/v/Ii-aeW5pHPQ/?t=4971) you go in about 10 minutes can we go can i go rapid fire yeah and you know we can go a little