# BG2

Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/shows/bg2/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy.

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Investing and business · [No. 18 of 37 AI podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/ai-podcasts/#bg2)

BG2 is an investing and business show, hosted by Brad Gerstner and Bill Gurley, with a new episode every three weeks.

17 moments cut from 6 episodes, 8 with an AI builder talking, mostly on data centers & energy and investing in AI.

Also [No. 9 of 17 business podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/business-podcasts/#bg2).

- [Brad Gerstner](https://realalpha.app/hosts/)
- [Bill Gurley](https://realalpha.app/hosts/)

**New episodes**

Every three weeks

**Latest**

Oct 15, 2026

**Moments cut**

17

**Episodes cut**

6

What its moments are about

- Data centers & energy 7
- Investing in AI 6
- Chips & GPUs 5
- Enterprise AI 4
- AI business models 4
- Jobs & the economy 4

## Best moments from BG2

From its most-watched episodes, best first. Each plays right here.

1. BG2 · Sep 26, 2025 · 4 min
   **[Why even free ASICs lose to NVIDIA when power is the limit](https://realalpha.app/s/why-even-free-asics-lose-to-nvidia-when-power-is-the-limit/)**
   > “if somebody gave them a 15 discount you know the difference between our gross margins was called 75 points and somebody else's gross margins call it 50 to 65 points”
   BG2 [51:57](https://realalpha.app/v/pE6sw_E9Gh0/?t=3117)
2. BG2 · Oct 15, 2026 · 4 min
   **[Nvidia demand rests on three segments, not two AI labs](https://realalpha.app/s/nvidia-demand-rests-on-three-segments-not-two-ai-labs/)**
   > “if you just kind of look at our compute, people see a couple of labs, but I see more than that. I see five, six labs.”
   BG2 [1:03:59](https://realalpha.app/v/eS7qQ3WJSrw/?t=3839)
3. BG2 · Oct 31, 2025 · 6 min
   **[Compute demand depends on price, and a glut will come](https://realalpha.app/s/compute-demand-depends-on-price-and-a-glut-will-come/)**
   > “It's not a supply issue of chips. It's actually the fact that I don't have warm shells to plug into.”
   BG2 [18:36](https://realalpha.app/v/Gnl833wXRz0/?t=1116)
4. BG2 · Jun 11, 2026 · 4 min
   **[Orbital compute could cut a gigawatt's cost from $60B to $30B](https://realalpha.app/s/orbital-compute-could-cut-a-gigawatts-cost-from-60b-to-30b/)**
   > “the math you get to is it's about $5 billion per gigawatt of CapEx to put these in space.”
   BG2 [26:49](https://realalpha.app/v/Tx9jT2c6e3U/?t=1609)
5. BG2 · Aug 28, 2025 · 7 min
   **[Xiaomi built a car factory in three years with 2,000 workers](https://realalpha.app/s/xiaomi-built-a-car-factory-in-three-years-with-2-000-workers/)**
   > “The factory makes 1,000 cars a day with 2,000 employees. It was highly automated, like really highly automated.”
   BG2 [17:22](https://realalpha.app/v/hUJz55AsUz4/?t=1042)
6. BG2 · Jun 20, 2025 · 6 min
   **[AI productivity could bend the US debt-to-GDP curve](https://realalpha.app/s/ai-productivity-could-bend-the-us-debt-to-gdp-curve/)**
   > “I like to say that tokens trump tariffs, right? Basically. And so we're basically left with this deficit.”
   BG2 [30:58](https://realalpha.app/v/4JA7n0wTChw/?t=1858)

## The best BG2 episodes

Ranked as our lists rank shows: a point for each best minute we cut from it, one more when an AI builder is talking, and one more when it cleared our views bar.

1. 01 [Jensen Huang | Does AI Revenue Justify Capex, '27 AI Bottlenecks, Singularity, Open vs Closed & more](https://realalpha.app/v/eS7qQ3WJSrw/) Oct 15, 2026 · 3 moments
2. 02 [All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner](https://realalpha.app/v/Gnl833wXRz0/) Oct 31, 2025 · 3 moments
3. 03 [NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner](https://realalpha.app/v/pE6sw_E9Gh0/) Sep 26, 2025 · 2 moments
4. 04 [The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang](https://realalpha.app/v/Tx9jT2c6e3U/) Jun 11, 2026 · 3 moments
5. 05 [China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner](https://realalpha.app/v/hUJz55AsUz4/) Aug 28, 2025 · 3 moments

## The 7 guests we’ve cut

- [Jensen Huang](https://realalpha.app/builders/jensen-huang/) Founder & CEO, NVIDIA 5 moments
- [Satya Nadella](https://realalpha.app/builders/satya-nadella/) Chairman & CEO, Microsoft 3 moments
- [Andrew Fox](https://realalpha.app/people/andrew-fox/) Analyst, Atreides Management 2 moments
- [Gavin Baker](https://realalpha.app/people/gavin-baker/) Managing partner & CIO, Atreides Management 2 moments
- [Philippe Laffont](https://realalpha.app/people/philippe-laffont/) Founder & portfolio manager, Coatue 2 moments
- [Thomas Laffont](https://realalpha.app/people/thomas-laffont/) 1 moment
- Clark Tang 1 moment

## Recent episodes

- BG2
  **[Jensen Huang | Does AI Revenue Justify Capex, '27 AI Bottlenecks, Singularity, Open vs Closed & more](https://realalpha.app/v/eS7qQ3WJSrw/)**
  Jensen Huang · NVIDIA
  [1:01:57](https://realalpha.app/v/eS7qQ3WJSrw/?t=3717) of 1:39:53 · Oct 15
- BG2
  **[The SpaceX IPO, Fable 5, AI Capex Update & Market Check w/ Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & Clark Tang](https://realalpha.app/v/Tx9jT2c6e3U/)**
  Gavin Baker, Andrew Fox & 1 more
  [24:49](https://realalpha.app/v/Tx9jT2c6e3U/?t=1489) of 1:20:48 · Jun 11
- BG2
  **[All things AI w @altcap @sama & @satyanadella. A Halloween Special. 🎃🔥BG2 w/ Brad Gerstner](https://realalpha.app/v/Gnl833wXRz0/)**
  Satya Nadella & Sam Altman
  [15:12](https://realalpha.app/v/Gnl833wXRz0/?t=912) of 1:14:21 · Oct 31
- BG2
  **[NVIDIA: OpenAI, Future of Compute, and the American Dream | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner](https://realalpha.app/v/pE6sw_E9Gh0/)**
  Jensen Huang & Clark Tang
  [50:22](https://realalpha.app/v/pE6sw_E9Gh0/?t=3022) of 1:44:15 · Sep 26
- BG2
  **[China, China, China. Breaking Down China’s Tech Surge | BG2 w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner](https://realalpha.app/v/hUJz55AsUz4/)**
  [13:51](https://realalpha.app/v/hUJz55AsUz4/?t=831) of 1:06:33 · Aug 28
- BG2
  **[Coatue’s Laffont Brothers. AI, Public & VC Mkts, Macro, US Debt, Crypto, IPO's, & more | BG2](https://realalpha.app/v/4JA7n0wTChw/)**
  Thomas Laffont & Philippe Laffont · Coatue
  [28:49](https://realalpha.app/v/4JA7n0wTChw/?t=1729) of 1:01:17 · Jun 20

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