# Cheeky Pint

Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/shows/cheeky-pint/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy.

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Cheeky Pint is an interview show with the people building AI, hosted by John Collison, with a new episode every week.

8 moments cut from 3 episodes, 2 with an AI builder talking, mostly on data centers & energy and robotics.

Also [No. 8 of 18 tech podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/tech-podcasts/#cheeky-pint) and [No. 8 of 17 business podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/business-podcasts/#cheeky-pint).

- [John Collison](https://realalpha.app/hosts/)

**New episodes**

Weekly

**Latest**

Oct 20, 2026

**Moments cut**

8

**Episodes cut**

3

What its moments are about

- Data centers & energy 2
- Robotics 1
- Scaling laws 1
- Frontier models 1
- Investing in AI 1
- Big Tech's AI bets 1

## Best moments from Cheeky Pint

From its most-watched episodes, best first. Each plays right here.

1. Cheeky Pint · Oct 12, 2026 · 4 min
   **[Training a frontier model means committing $100B before you know it works](https://realalpha.app/s/training-a-frontier-model-means-committing-100b-before-you/)**
   > “It's like the opposite of lean startup. Like lean startup is like, yeah, you like see if you get something working and then you double down”
   Cheeky Pint [52:48](https://realalpha.app/v/XfdIhd1g6EI/?t=3168)
2. Cheeky Pint · Oct 20, 2026 · 5 min
   **[Mercedes tested a clever loophole before putting it on the car](https://realalpha.app/s/mercedes-tested-a-clever-loophole-before-putting-it-on-the/)**
   > “we created another dimension with the steering wheel actually to push and to pull the steering wheel in a formula one car”
   Cheeky Pint [14:48](https://realalpha.app/v/mFLcqTGpVyU/?t=888)
3. Cheeky Pint · Oct 15, 2026 · 5 min
   **[Scaling underwater drones requires rethinking the supply chain](https://realalpha.app/s/scaling-underwater-drones-requires-rethinking-the-supply/)**
   > “For us, it's scale, lead time. There's about 20 million aerial drones built every year. There's maybe 1,000 to 2,000 underwater drones.”
   Cheeky Pint [24:39](https://realalpha.app/v/Ab2AGgoF5hU/?t=1479)
4. Cheeky Pint · Oct 12, 2026 · 2 min
   **[Why Meta's compute bet is less risky than the $100B headline](https://realalpha.app/s/why-metas-compute-bet-is-less-risky-than-the-100b-headline/)**
   > “if AI works overall, plenty of other people want all our compute. So they're willing to pay.”
   Cheeky Pint [58:03](https://realalpha.app/v/XfdIhd1g6EI/?t=3483)
5. Cheeky Pint · Oct 20, 2026 · 5 min
   **[A CFO’s warning led Wolff to exit his dot-com investments](https://realalpha.app/s/a-cfos-warning-led-wolff-to-exit-his-dot-com-investments/)**
   > “that he gave me from this one-hour flight from Bonn to Vienna was enough to look at our whole portfolio of nine investments.”
   Cheeky Pint [33:08](https://realalpha.app/v/mFLcqTGpVyU/?t=1988)
6. Cheeky Pint · Oct 15, 2026 · 5 min
   **[Underwater drones can cost far less than Navy vehicles](https://realalpha.app/s/underwater-drones-can-cost-far-less-than-navy-vehicles/)**
   > “But if you're working with a navy, we can sell them for as cheap as $50,000. dollars.”
   Cheeky Pint [38:57](https://realalpha.app/v/Ab2AGgoF5hU/?t=2337)

## The best Cheeky Pint episodes

Ranked as our lists rank shows: a point for each best minute we cut from it, one more when an AI builder is talking, and one more when it cleared our views bar.

1. 01 [Muse Wonder: Zuckerberg and Wang's $100B AI](https://realalpha.app/v/XfdIhd1g6EI/) Oct 12, 2026 · 2 moments
2. 02 [How Toto Wolff built the most valuable team in F1](https://realalpha.app/v/mFLcqTGpVyU/) Oct 20, 2026 · 3 moments
3. 03 [The company building underwater drones for $50,000](https://realalpha.app/v/Ab2AGgoF5hU/) Oct 15, 2026 · 3 moments

## The 4 guests we’ve cut

- [Alexandr Wang](https://realalpha.app/builders/alexandr-wang/) Chief AI Officer, Meta; founder, Scale AI 1 moment
- [Mark Zuckerberg](https://realalpha.app/builders/mark-zuckerberg/) Founder & CEO, Meta 1 moment
- [Toto Wolff](https://realalpha.app/people/toto-wolff/) Team principal & CEO, Mercedes 8 moments
- [Will O’Brien](https://realalpha.app/people/will-obrien/) 7 moments

## Recent episodes

- Cheeky Pint
  **[How Toto Wolff built the most valuable team in F1](https://realalpha.app/v/mFLcqTGpVyU/)**
  Toto Wolff · Team Principal & Co-Owner, Mercedes-AMG PETRONAS F1 Team
  [11:59](https://realalpha.app/v/mFLcqTGpVyU/?t=719) of 1:11:54 · Oct 20
- Cheeky Pint
  **[The company building underwater drones for $50,000](https://realalpha.app/v/Ab2AGgoF5hU/)**
  Will O'Brien & Chris Sacca
  [21:34](https://realalpha.app/v/Ab2AGgoF5hU/?t=1294) of 49:55 · Oct 15
- Cheeky Pint
  **[Muse Wonder: Zuckerberg and Wang's $100B AI](https://realalpha.app/v/XfdIhd1g6EI/)**
  Mark Zuckerberg & Alexandr Wang
  [51:35](https://realalpha.app/v/XfdIhd1g6EI/?t=3095) of 2:14:31 · Oct 12

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