# Founders Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/shows/founders/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy. [Best AI podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/ai-podcasts/) Investing and business · [No. 12 of 37 AI podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/ai-podcasts/#founders) Founders is an investing and business show, hosted by David Senra, with a new episode a few times a week. 12 moments cut from 4 episodes, 3 with an AI builder talking, mostly on big Tech's AI bets and consumer AI. Also [No. 7 of 17 business podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/business-podcasts/#founders). - [David Senra](https://realalpha.app/hosts/) **New episodes** A few times a week **Latest** Oct 18, 2026 **Moments cut** 12 **Episodes cut** 4 What its moments are about - Big Tech's AI bets 3 - Consumer AI 2 - Building AI products 2 - Coding agents 1 - Evals & benchmarks 1 ## Best moments from Founders From its most-watched episodes, best first. Each plays right here. 1. Founders · Oct 11, 2026 · 4 min **[Meta bet on personal agents while rivals crowded into coding](https://realalpha.app/s/meta-bet-on-personal-agents-while-rivals-crowded-into-coding/)** > “the promise of AGI is that we're going to spend almost none of the time doing things that we have to do” Founders [10:46](https://realalpha.app/v/S6l3aRsecuE/?t=646) 2. Founders · Oct 14, 2026 · 3 min **[Great decisions come from knowing what to give up](https://realalpha.app/s/great-decisions-come-from-knowing-what-to-give-up/)** > “every great product, every great leader, every great decision comes from understanding that trade-off and realizing what does not matter.” Founders [16:07](https://realalpha.app/v/Js7Wf3Lj96A/?t=967) 3. Founders · Oct 7, 2026 · 3 min **[How Ari saved the ESPN deal by going crazy on purpose](https://realalpha.app/s/how-ari-saved-the-espn-deal-by-going-crazy-on-purpose/)** > “You've got to break stars. You're going to launch stars. You need stars to put it behind the paywall so that people buy the paywall.” Founders [17:58](https://realalpha.app/v/QeolP6gwSb4/?t=1078) 4. Founders · Oct 18, 2026 · 4 min **[Misaligned advisor incentives leave clients with less expertise](https://realalpha.app/s/misaligned-advisor-incentives-leave-clients-with-less/)** > “The client doesn't get access to the full benefits of the firm.” Founders [8:32](https://realalpha.app/v/u1cyLVmRMx8/?t=512) 5. Founders · Oct 11, 2026 · 3 min **[Muse launched only when every behavior on a 100-row checklist was green](https://realalpha.app/s/muse-launched-only-when-every-behavior-on-a-100-row/)** > “We had many checkpoints that were like green on 80 of the rows, but red on 20 of the rows. We knew that wasn't good enough.” Founders [22:06](https://realalpha.app/v/S6l3aRsecuE/?t=1326) 6. Founders · Oct 14, 2026 · 2 min **[The Wright brothers won by solving control, not lift](https://realalpha.app/s/the-wright-brothers-won-by-solving-control-not-lift/)** > “The hard problem to solve is control, is once you're in the air, can you stay in the air?” Founders [18:38](https://realalpha.app/v/Js7Wf3Lj96A/?t=1118) ## The best Founders episodes Ranked as our lists rank shows: a point for each best minute we cut from it, one more when an AI builder is talking, and one more when it cleared our views bar. 1. 01 [Building Muse, Working with Mark Zuckerberg & The Future of AI | Alexandr Wang, Meta](https://realalpha.app/v/S6l3aRsecuE/) Oct 11, 2026 · 3 moments 2. 02 [Lessons from History’s Greatest Leaders & Conquerors | Ben Wilson](https://realalpha.app/v/Js7Wf3Lj96A/) Oct 14, 2026 · 3 moments 3. 03 [Building an Empire with Risk, Rage & 200 Phone Calls A Day | Ari Emanuel, WME & TKO](https://realalpha.app/v/QeolP6gwSb4/) Oct 7, 2026 · 3 moments 4. 04 [Managing $525B & Building the World’s Largest Multifamily Office | Kurt MacAlpine, Corient](https://realalpha.app/v/u1cyLVmRMx8/) Oct 18, 2026 · 3 moments ## The 4 guests we’ve cut - [Alexandr Wang](https://realalpha.app/builders/alexandr-wang/) Chief AI Officer, Meta; founder, Scale AI 3 moments - [Kurt MacAlpine](https://realalpha.app/people/kurt-macalpine/) Partner & CEO, Corient 8 moments - [Ben Wilson](https://realalpha.app/people/ben-wilson/) Host, How to Take Over the World 3 moments - [Ari Emanuel](https://realalpha.app/people/ari-emanuel/) CEO & executive chairman, TKO Group Holdings 3 moments ## Recent episodes - Founders **[Managing $525B & Building the World’s Largest Multifamily Office | Kurt MacAlpine, Corient](https://realalpha.app/v/u1cyLVmRMx8/)** Kurt MacAlpine · Partner & CEO, Corient [5:22](https://realalpha.app/v/u1cyLVmRMx8/?t=322) of 1:19:35 · Oct 18 - Founders **[Lessons from History’s Greatest Leaders & Conquerors | Ben Wilson](https://realalpha.app/v/Js7Wf3Lj96A/)** Ben Wilson · Host, How To Take Over The World [13:11](https://realalpha.app/v/Js7Wf3Lj96A/?t=791) of 1:11:18 · Oct 14 - Founders **[Building Muse, Working with Mark Zuckerberg & The Future of AI | Alexandr Wang, Meta](https://realalpha.app/v/S6l3aRsecuE/)** Alexandr Wang · Chief AI Officer, Meta [9:05](https://realalpha.app/v/S6l3aRsecuE/?t=545) of 1:12:17 · Oct 11 - Founders **[Building an Empire with Risk, Rage & 200 Phone Calls A Day | Ari Emanuel, WME & TKO](https://realalpha.app/v/QeolP6gwSb4/)** Ari Emanuel · CEO, TKO [16:04](https://realalpha.app/v/QeolP6gwSb4/?t=964) of 1:24:15 · Oct 7 ## Host this show? 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