# Grit

Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/shows/grit/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy.

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Grit is an interview show with the people building AI, hosted by Joubin Mirzadegan, with a new episode every two weeks.

3 moments cut from one episode, 3 with an AI builder talking, mostly on enterprise AI and AI agents.

Also [No. 12 of 17 business podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/business-podcasts/#grit).

- [Joubin Mirzadegan](https://realalpha.app/hosts/)

**New episodes**

Every two weeks

**Latest**

Oct 19, 2026

**Moments cut**

3

**Episodes cut**

1

What its moments are about

- Enterprise AI 1
- AI agents 1
- Jobs & the economy 1

## Best moments from Grit

From its most-watched episodes, best first. Each plays right here.

1. Grit · Oct 5, 2026 · 3 min
   **[Never accept a founder's forecast without the pipeline math](https://realalpha.app/s/never-accept-a-founders-forecast-without-the-pipeline-math/)**
   > “founders are default optimists extremely exuberant and by the way do not know how to forecast a business it's just not in their like bread and butter”
   Grit [15:21](https://realalpha.app/v/CPp_XKM7fcc/?t=921)
2. Grit · Oct 5, 2026 · 4 min
   **[Build an operating model to show what must be true](https://realalpha.app/s/build-an-operating-model-to-show-what-must-be-true/)**
   > “one of the first things I come into a business when I do is build what I call an operating model, which is effectively the math behind what needs to be true”
   Grit [16:33](https://realalpha.app/v/CPp_XKM7fcc/?t=993)
3. Grit · Oct 5, 2026 · 3 min
   **[Vercel runs support, BDR and RevOps with agents](https://realalpha.app/s/vercel-runs-support-bdr-and-revops-with-agents/)**
   > “the remaining support team that we have really is now finding legitimate problems in the product and then working really closely with the engineering”
   Grit [58:16](https://realalpha.app/v/CPp_XKM7fcc/?t=3496)

## The guest we’ve cut

- [Jeanne Grosser](https://realalpha.app/builders/jeanne-grosser/) COO, Vercel 3 moments

## Recent episodes

- Grit
  **[The 20-Year Bet to Make Fusion Energy Work | Jeff Lawson](https://realalpha.app/v/9iUw9a3D4Yo/)**
  Jeff Lawson · Co-founder & CEO, Inertia
  1.9K views · Oct 19
- Grit
  **[How Vercel Is Rethinking Go-to-Market With AI | COO Jeanne Grosser](https://realalpha.app/v/CPp_XKM7fcc/)**
  Jeanne Grosser · COO, Vercel
  [13:30](https://realalpha.app/v/CPp_XKM7fcc/?t=810) of 1:03:47 · Oct 5

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