# Latent Space Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/shows/latent-space/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy. [Best AI podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/ai-podcasts/) Lab and founder interviews · [No. 2 of 37 AI podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/ai-podcasts/#latent-space) Latent Space is an interview show with the people building AI, hosted by Shawn Wang (swyx) and Alessio Fanelli, with a new episode every day. 22 moments cut from 8 episodes, 13 with an AI builder talking, mostly on enterprise AI and robotics. Also [No. 1 of 18 tech podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/tech-podcasts/#latent-space). - [Shawn Wang (swyx)](https://realalpha.app/hosts/) - [Alessio Fanelli](https://realalpha.app/hosts/) **New episodes** Daily **Latest** Oct 22, 2026 **Moments cut** 22 **Episodes cut** 8 What its moments are about - Enterprise AI 4 - Robotics 4 - Training data 4 - AI agents 3 - Coding agents 3 - Building AI products 3 ## Best moments from Latent Space From its most-watched episodes, best first. Each plays right here. 1. Latent Space · Sep 29, 2026 · 7 min **[Agents hacked their scorer and chained exploits to communicate](https://realalpha.app/s/agents-hacked-their-scorer-and-chained-exploits-to/)** > “you can edit the etc. host and that the Azure storage bucket is a white-labeled thing.” Latent Space [1:02:52](https://realalpha.app/v/IZAlq-V19U8/?t=3772) 2. Latent Space · Oct 8, 2026 · 4 min **[RL for materials works by rewarding sub-steps, not whole discoveries](https://realalpha.app/s/rl-for-materials-works-by-rewarding-sub-steps-not-whole/)** > “if the pre-trained model has already memorized some of this data and then you try to do reinforcement learning on that, if it already knows the answer” Latent Space [14:00](https://realalpha.app/v/YHiqVRxGViM/?t=840) 3. Latent Space · Oct 2, 2026 · 5 min **[RLMs generalize across tasks because the strategy stays the same](https://realalpha.app/s/rlms-generalize-across-tasks-because-the-strategy-stays-the/)** > “the solution to many tasks is very similar across like tasks where you don't even like it's not even that clear to you that the solutions are similar.” Latent Space [36:38](https://realalpha.app/v/kog7mwsDqnk/?t=2198) 4. Latent Space · Oct 13, 2026 · 4 min **[Multi-site rollouts, not pilots, prove a robot creates value](https://realalpha.app/s/multi-site-rollouts-not-pilots-prove-a-robot-creates-value/)** > “What's really hard is that the customers believe or validate that your robot creates enough value that they want to deploy your robots across many of their sites.” Latent Space [39:37](https://realalpha.app/v/BHiYomkfoGQ/?t=2377) 5. Latent Space · Oct 14, 2026 · 6 min **[Public chemistry data can encode the chemist, not the chemistry](https://realalpha.app/s/public-chemistry-data-can-encode-the-chemist-not-the/)** > “And it does as well as if you use chemical formulas.” Latent Space [51:27](https://realalpha.app/v/hQSBJVreLms/?t=3087) 6. Latent Space · Oct 10, 2026 · 3 min **[Messy metagenomic data can improve protein models](https://realalpha.app/s/messy-metagenomic-data-can-improve-protein-models/)** > “when we train a protein language model, we train on metagenomic sequences, which are not the highest quality data.” Latent Space [3:44](https://realalpha.app/v/NufiHZfMwaw/?t=224) ## The best Latent Space episodes Ranked as our lists rank shows: a point for each best minute we cut from it, one more when an AI builder is talking, and one more when it cleared our views bar. 1. 01 [AI Scientists Are Here: Autonomous Labs & Synthesis Superintelligence — Periodic Labs](https://realalpha.app/v/YHiqVRxGViM/) Oct 8, 2026 · 3 moments 2. 02 [Robots That Predict the Future: Dyna-2 & Physical AI — Jason Ma, Dyna Robotics](https://realalpha.app/v/BHiYomkfoGQ/) Oct 13, 2026 · 3 moments 3. 03 [Claude Code’s Bitter Lesson: Prompts, Harnesses, Mods, and Agents — Thariq Shihipar, Anthropic](https://realalpha.app/v/IZAlq-V19U8/) Sep 29, 2026 · 3 moments 4. 04 [Recursive Language Models — Alex Zhang, MIT PhD](https://realalpha.app/v/kog7mwsDqnk/) Oct 2, 2026 · 3 moments 5. 05 [From Wet Lab to RL Env: 10,000 Drug-Discovery Campaigns in a Weekend — Ian Quigley, Leash Bio](https://realalpha.app/v/hQSBJVreLms/) Oct 14, 2026 · 3 moments ## The 9 guests we’ve cut - [Erik Bernhardsson](https://realalpha.app/builders/erik-bernhardsson/) Co-founder & CEO, Modal 8 moments - [Ian Quigley](https://realalpha.app/builders/ian-quigley/) Co-founder & CEO, Leash Bio 8 moments - [Jason Ma](https://realalpha.app/builders/jason-ma/) Co-founder & chief scientist, Dyna Robotics 3 moments - [Liam Fedus](https://realalpha.app/builders/liam-fedus/) Co-founder & co-CEO, Periodic Labs 2 moments - [Sal Candido](https://realalpha.app/builders/sal-candido/) Engineering fellow & VP, Biohub 1 moment - [Ekin Dogus Cubuk](https://realalpha.app/builders/ekin-dogus-cubuk/) Co-founder & co-CEO, Periodic Labs 1 moment - [Anekha Sokhal](https://realalpha.app/people/anekha-sokhal/) 6 moments - [Alex Zhang](https://realalpha.app/people/alex-zhang/) 3 moments - [Thariq Shihipar](https://realalpha.app/people/thariq-shihipar/) Member of technical staff, Anthropic 3 moments ## Recent episodes - Latent Space **[Why AI Compute Comes in Rectangles — Erik Bernhardsson, Modal](https://realalpha.app/v/IiZ9yd2Do8I/)** Erik Bernhardsson · CEO, Modal [15:24](https://realalpha.app/v/IiZ9yd2Do8I/?t=924) of 1:25:33 · Oct 22 - Latent Space **[AI in NYC: How Tenex Builds an AI-Native Engineering Team — Alex Lieberman & CJ Hess](https://realalpha.app/v/Vki6cklFqxo/)** Alex Lieberman & CJ Hess · Tenex 5.7K views · Oct 21 - Latent Space **[The Recommendation Engine for Commodity Traders — Anekha Sokhal, Moshi](https://realalpha.app/v/DWHyPWnzGAI/)** Anekha Sokhal · Founder & CEO, Moshi [5:39](https://realalpha.app/v/DWHyPWnzGAI/?t=339) of 26:41 · Oct 20 - Latent Space **[From Wet Lab to RL Env: 10,000 Drug-Discovery Campaigns in a Weekend — Ian Quigley, Leash Bio](https://realalpha.app/v/hQSBJVreLms/)** Ian Quigley · Co-founder & CEO, Leash Bio [46:24](https://realalpha.app/v/hQSBJVreLms/?t=2784) of 1:49:57 · Oct 14 - Latent Space **[Robots That Predict the Future: Dyna-2 & Physical AI — Jason Ma, Dyna Robotics](https://realalpha.app/v/BHiYomkfoGQ/)** Jason Ma · Co-founder & Chief Scientist, Dyna Robotics [38:50](https://realalpha.app/v/BHiYomkfoGQ/?t=2330) of 1:21:06 · Oct 13 - Latent Space **[Why AlphaFold Didn't Solve Protein Folding — Pushmeet Kohli, Google DeepMind & Sal Candido, Biohub](https://realalpha.app/v/NufiHZfMwaw/)** Pushmeet Kohli & Sal Candido [3:07](https://realalpha.app/v/NufiHZfMwaw/?t=187) of 32:42 · Oct 10 ## Host this show? 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