# The MAD Podcast

Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/shows/mad-podcast/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy.

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The MAD Podcast is an interview show with the people building AI, hosted by Matt Turck, with a new episode every week.

9 moments cut from 3 episodes, 6 with an AI builder talking, mostly on data & databases and reasoning & RL.

- [Matt Turck](https://realalpha.app/hosts/)

**New episodes**

Weekly

**Latest**

Oct 22, 2026

**Moments cut**

9

**Episodes cut**

3

What its moments are about

- Data & databases 3
- Reasoning & RL 2
- Training data 2
- AI agents 2
- Evals & benchmarks 2
- Inference & cost 1

## Best moments from The MAD Podcast

From its most-watched episodes, best first. Each plays right here.

1. The MAD Podcast · Oct 8, 2026 · 5 min
   **[Agents could mean 10 to 100x more database queries](https://realalpha.app/s/agents-could-mean-10-to-100x-more-database-queries/)**
   > “So I think there's going to be potentially a 10 to 100x increase in volume and the number of queries that are going to hit up against databases.”
   The MAD Podcast [13:44](https://realalpha.app/v/74X0DJOVEc8/?t=824)
2. The MAD Podcast · Oct 15, 2026 · 4 min
   **[Reliable email automation starts with legible decisions](https://realalpha.app/s/reliable-email-automation-starts-with-legible-decisions/)**
   > “you can actually make individual classifiers for each of these things like smart if statements like you can now express things that you couldn't express in software before”
   The MAD Podcast [18:16](https://realalpha.app/v/9YsM1LPPz-A/?t=1096)
3. The MAD Podcast · Oct 22, 2026 · 6 min
   **[RL training depends on calibrated tasks and resilient infrastructure](https://realalpha.app/s/rl-training-depends-on-calibrated-tasks-and-resilient/)**
   > “The difficulty of the field is to calibrate the difficulty of questions.”
   The MAD Podcast [47:19](https://realalpha.app/v/nxAoCPsGfe8/?t=2839)
4. The MAD Podcast · Oct 8, 2026 · 2 min
   **[Text-to-SQL reached 99.5% at a bank, but at great cost](https://realalpha.app/s/text-to-sql-reached-99-5-at-a-bank-but-at-great-cost/)**
   > “they were able to get it up to like 99.5%, which is insane. I think that is, I think that's a viable thing now if you invest the time”
   The MAD Podcast [24:55](https://realalpha.app/v/74X0DJOVEc8/?t=1495)
5. The MAD Podcast · Oct 15, 2026 · 7 min
   **[RLHF made models pleasing, but raised automation expectations](https://realalpha.app/s/rlhf-made-models-pleasing-but-raised-automation-expectations/)**
   > “The root of the problem to me is that RLHF actually greatly increased expectations.”
   The MAD Podcast [33:27](https://realalpha.app/v/9YsM1LPPz-A/?t=2007)
6. The MAD Podcast · Oct 22, 2026 · 5 min
   **[Mixture-of-experts models trade training complexity for inference capacity](https://realalpha.app/s/mixture-of-experts-models-trade-training-complexity-for/)**
   > “The advantage is that at inference time, each token sees 50 billion different parameters, interact with 50 billion different parameters at a time”
   The MAD Podcast [28:20](https://realalpha.app/v/nxAoCPsGfe8/?t=1700)

## The best The MAD Podcast episodes

Ranked as our lists rank shows: a point for each best minute we cut from it, one more when an AI builder is talking, and one more when it cleared our views bar.

1. 01 [Jev: The AI That Makes Decisions, Not Text - and Why It Changes Everything (Diogo Almeida)](https://realalpha.app/v/9YsM1LPPz-A/) Oct 15, 2026 · 3 moments
2. 02 [Mistral Is SO Back: Inside Le Chonk, the West’s Biggest Open Model](https://realalpha.app/v/nxAoCPsGfe8/) Oct 22, 2026 · 3 moments
3. 03 [Andy Pavlo: What Happens When Billions of AI Agents Hit Your Database](https://realalpha.app/v/74X0DJOVEc8/) Oct 8, 2026 · 3 moments

## The 3 guests we’ve cut

- [Pierre Stock](https://realalpha.app/builders/pierre-stock/) VP of Science, Mistral AI 8 moments
- [Diogo Almeida](https://realalpha.app/builders/diogo-almeida/) Co-founder & CEO, TypeSafe 7 moments
- [Andy Pavlo](https://realalpha.app/people/andy-pavlo/) VP of database research, ClickHouse 3 moments

## Recent episodes

- The MAD Podcast
  **[Mistral Is SO Back: Inside Le Chonk, the West’s Biggest Open Model](https://realalpha.app/v/nxAoCPsGfe8/)**
  Pierre Stock · VP of Science, Mistral AI
  [46:42](https://realalpha.app/v/nxAoCPsGfe8/?t=2802) of 1:19:11 · Oct 22
- The MAD Podcast
  **[Jev: The AI That Makes Decisions, Not Text - and Why It Changes Everything (Diogo Almeida)](https://realalpha.app/v/9YsM1LPPz-A/)**
  Diogo Almeida · CEO, TypeSafe
  [15:54](https://realalpha.app/v/9YsM1LPPz-A/?t=954) of 1:08:04 · Oct 15
- The MAD Podcast
  **[Andy Pavlo: What Happens When Billions of AI Agents Hit Your Database](https://realalpha.app/v/74X0DJOVEc8/)**
  Andy Pavlo · VP of Database Research, ClickHouse
  [10:43](https://realalpha.app/v/74X0DJOVEc8/?t=643) of 1:16:54 · Oct 8

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