# Training Data

Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/shows/training-data/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy.

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Training Data is an interview show with the people building AI, hosted by Sonya Huang and Pat Grady, with a new episode every week.

15 moments cut from 5 episodes, 6 with an AI builder talking, mostly on training data and talent & hiring.

Also [No. 5 of 17 business podcasts](https://realalpha.app/best/business-podcasts/#training-data).

- [Sonya Huang](https://realalpha.app/hosts/)
- [Pat Grady](https://realalpha.app/hosts/)

**New episodes**

Weekly

**Latest**

Oct 20, 2026

**Moments cut**

15

**Episodes cut**

5

What its moments are about

- Training data 4
- Talent & hiring 4
- Robotics 3
- Scaling laws 2
- Reasoning & RL 2
- Data centers & energy 2

## Best moments from Training Data

From its most-watched episodes, best first. Each plays right here.

1. Training Data · Sep 17, 2026 · 7 min
   **[Great enterprise sellers are aggressive, high-EQ and not technical](https://realalpha.app/s/great-enterprise-sellers-are-aggressive-high-eq-and-not/)**
   Ali tested his hiring assumptions against top sellers and found PhD-style technical skill was no edge. He rebuilt his sales rubric around aggression, emotional intelligence and reading a customer's power base.
2. Training Data · Oct 13, 2026 · 5 min
   **[Dropping human data let AlphaZero beat two years of work in hours](https://realalpha.app/s/dropping-human-data-let-alphazero-beat-two-years-of-work-in/)**
   > “it took a few hours to like outperform the two years of work which we'd done as with human in the loop”
   Training Data [30:56](https://realalpha.app/v/L4SWQebqhek/?t=1856)
3. Training Data · Oct 8, 2026 · 5 min
   **[Hiring signals: Harvard predicts little, interviews must be scripted](https://realalpha.app/s/hiring-signals-harvard-predicts-little-interviews-must-be/)**
   > “We found that if someone is politically active as a teenager, but CZs to be in their early 20s that tends to correlate highly with someone's drive”
   Training Data [14:57](https://realalpha.app/v/hZxmbhsbvyw/?t=897)
4. Training Data · Oct 6, 2026 · 5 min
   **[Goodput, not FLOPS, is how Google holds itself accountable](https://realalpha.app/s/goodput-not-flops-is-how-google-holds-itself-accountable/)**
   > “if you have failure recovery, if you have whatever it is that's interrupting your work, That's part of the issue.”
   Training Data [8:48](https://realalpha.app/v/bGph8GwB3Sk/?t=528)
5. Training Data · Oct 20, 2026 · 4 min
   **[Robot training is converging on a mixed data recipe](https://realalpha.app/s/robot-training-is-converging-on-a-mixed-data-recipe/)**
   > “some version of a million hours of human data across egocentric and different types of modalities, some tens of thousands of hours of UMI data”
   Training Data [32:54](https://realalpha.app/v/0idrTKCDhuE/?t=1974)
6. Training Data · Sep 17, 2026 · 4 min
   **[Hire executives early and be extremely picky to avoid false positives](https://realalpha.app/s/hire-executives-early-and-be-extremely-picky-to-avoid-false/)**
   > “my playbook was, err on the side of being just extremely picky, take a decent amount of time, start early”
   Training Data [25:13](https://realalpha.app/v/k7wPdCNfljQ/?t=1513)

## The best Training Data episodes

Ranked as our lists rank shows: a point for each best minute we cut from it, one more when an AI builder is talking, and one more when it cleared our views bar.

1. 01 [Databricks’ Ali Ghodsi Never Wanted to Be CEO. Now He’s Among the Best](https://realalpha.app/v/k7wPdCNfljQ/) Sep 17, 2026 · 3 moments
2. 02 [David Silver and Lasse Espeholt of Ineffable Intelligence: A Superlearner for the Age of Experience](https://realalpha.app/v/L4SWQebqhek/) Oct 13, 2026 · 3 moments
3. 03 [Luca Ferrari: The Operating System Behind Bending Spoons](https://realalpha.app/v/hZxmbhsbvyw/) Oct 8, 2026 · 3 moments
4. 04 [Google's AI Infrastructure Chief, Amin Vahdat, on the Physics & Economics of Frontier AI](https://realalpha.app/v/bGph8GwB3Sk/) Oct 6, 2026 · 3 moments
5. 05 [Inside the Robot Data Factory: Mecka's Josh Gao on Sensorizing Humans to Train Robots](https://realalpha.app/v/0idrTKCDhuE/) Oct 20, 2026 · 3 moments

## The 5 guests we’ve cut

- [David Silver](https://realalpha.app/builders/david-silver/) Founder & CEO, Ineffable Intelligence 3 moments
- [Ali Ghodsi](https://realalpha.app/builders/ali-ghodsi/) Co-founder & CEO, Databricks 3 moments
- [Josh Gao](https://realalpha.app/people/josh-gao/) 7 moments
- [Luca Ferrari](https://realalpha.app/people/luca-ferrari/) Co-founder & CEO, Bending Spoons 3 moments
- [Amin Vahdat](https://realalpha.app/people/amin-vahdat/) SVP & chief technologist for AI and infrastructure, Google 3 moments

## Recent episodes

- Training Data
  **[Inside the Robot Data Factory: Mecka's Josh Gao on Sensorizing Humans to Train Robots](https://realalpha.app/v/0idrTKCDhuE/)**
  Josh Gao · Founder & CEO, Mecka AI
  [31:56](https://realalpha.app/v/0idrTKCDhuE/?t=1916) of 45:12 · Oct 20
- Training Data
  **[David Silver and Lasse Espeholt of Ineffable Intelligence: A Superlearner for the Age of Experience](https://realalpha.app/v/L4SWQebqhek/)**
  David Silver & Lasse Espeholt · Ineffable Intelligence
  [27:19](https://realalpha.app/v/L4SWQebqhek/?t=1639) of 1:08:03 · Oct 13
- Training Data
  **[Luca Ferrari: The Operating System Behind Bending Spoons](https://realalpha.app/v/hZxmbhsbvyw/)**
  Luca Ferrari · Co-founder & CEO, Bending Spoons
  [13:28](https://realalpha.app/v/hZxmbhsbvyw/?t=808) of 1:06:20 · Oct 8
- Training Data
  **[Google's AI Infrastructure Chief, Amin Vahdat, on the Physics & Economics of Frontier AI](https://realalpha.app/v/bGph8GwB3Sk/)**
  Amin Vahdat · Chief Technologist for AI Infrastructure, Google
  [5:27](https://realalpha.app/v/bGph8GwB3Sk/?t=327) of 1:04:27 · Oct 6
- Training Data
  **[Databricks’ Ali Ghodsi Never Wanted to Be CEO. Now He’s Among the Best](https://realalpha.app/v/k7wPdCNfljQ/)**
  Ali Ghodsi · CEO, Databricks
  [12:25](https://realalpha.app/v/k7wPdCNfljQ/?t=745) of 1:14:30 · Sep 17

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