# The 20-Year Bet to Make Fusion Energy Work | Jeff Lawson

Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/v/9iUw9a3D4Yo/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy.

- Show: Grit
- Hosts: Joubin Mirzadegan
- Published: Oct 19, 2026

## The best minutes

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