# System Shutdowns Are Coming in the Next Year | Joel de la Garza

Markdown copy of https://realalpha.app/v/caDHVdooOpo/ on Real Alpha, the best minutes from long interviews with the people building AI. Cite and link the page, not this copy.

- Show: MTS
- Hosts: Theo Jaffee & Sophia Dew
- Published: Oct 24, 2026

## The best minutes

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