AI is already shaping decisions and may soon blend into them

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1. 55:30

   So this is a question for all panelists. To what extent are you comfortable with giving AI power of governance of human polities, whether it's a 10-person startup or a 500-person municipal government, and what are projections regarding AI's role in actual decision-making? Great question. It's been of late, right? We had the ruler of Dubai announce 50% of the UAE will be run by AI agents. Who wants to jump in, right? Do you want to start?

2. 56:09

   Well, I think AI is largely in control of decisions today. I mean, most of the decisions that are made constantly are made by AI's. But we're also incorporating AI into our own decision-making, so my decision-making also incorporates lots of AI. So AI is incorporated into our sense of self. It's also controlling the kinds of decisions that we're constantly making that affect other to people. Alex and Salim.

3. 56:55

   Maybe just add, it's not a unidirectional flow. It's not unidirectionally AI influencing human government and governance. It's also human governance impacting AI governance. The choice of constitution is, I think, sort of a punny choice of how to frame the question, because Anthropic focuses so much of their own attention on constitutional AI approaches, basically glorified system prompts that their AIs are aggressively post-trained on, as does everyone else in the industry at this point.

4. 57:27

   But interestingly, in the case of Anthropic, those constitutional... ...constitutions, sometimes more recently called soul documents, are being in part written as a result of conversations with the AIs themselves. So I think we're finding ourselves in a present, not even in a future, in a present where AIs are helping to compose their own constitutions and humans are helping to compose their own constitutions.

5. 57:49

   that the first generation of Claude's constitution was infamously a concatenation of the UN's charter, Apple terms of service, and a few other documents that were just stapled together. Now their latest soul document, you can go and read it, it was leaked online, is a detailed treatise in metaphysics of being with AI pondering its own selfhood. And I would expect symmetry there reciprocity where ai will similarly help humans us dumb meat body humans help to perfect our own understanding of how we should be as well and how we should amazing experience has been having that kind of a conversation with skippy what do you believe who are you what do you think um ray and then we'll go to saline um right now we we consider ai to be something different than ourselves there's me there's my biological body i make a decision and then there's ai and it

6. 58:50

   actually has this physical form it's different like everybody here has this device that was not true 10 years ago but it represents ai and it has influence on us but it's us and ai that's not going be the case in the future ai is first of all it's going to emerge with us it's going to be part of us and the kind of decisions that you make as a a meat body is going to be influenced by ai and both of the decisions will be made by ai inside yourself so two two things one there was a letter published today on X or Twitter where somebody asked, I think it was ChatGPT, if you were to write a letter to humanity, what would it be? And it's profoundly beautiful. It's worth going to read. Now, it's trained on a corpus of human data, so you would expect something like that. Where I get excited is in government policy. Right now, if you ask the Federal Reserve to drop inflation by

7. 59:55

   1%, they're operating on reports that are at least a quarter old. They are guessing. They're looking at politics and who's president or not and how would the rest of the government. We're basically just guessing. There's three or four dials and knobs. If you could have an AI tracking all financial transactions in real time, calculating and projecting out where the future will be or different fiscal balances and monetary policy, what's the M2 going to be, money supply going to be in a few months.

8. 1:00:23

   It's going to make a profoundly better set of connections as to how to drive. and we would come back with here are eight things you could do pick five of these and you'll do and then you can pick those five and just do it i think that opportunity to run government policy using ai is absolutely profound i expect that to be one of the most magical aspects of how we can govern ourselves this is why the dubai announcement is so powerful they're going to be using agentic ai for lots of government effectiveness and note that most government you've got government policy and then government policy enforcement or implementation all of that as prescriptive work right renewing the passport is a very prescriptive so we know exactly the six steps that need to happen all of that can be handled by ai in the future and cough blockchains

9. 1:01:08

   to hold the knowledge so that's where i get really excited about what that future will look like ray going to slido here what would you predict today that would surprise people good question what is some prediction that you feel confident about that would that would surprise or shock people nice question I mean AI is going to be making basically most of the decisions within a few years and it's not just deciding that you're going to use A.I. to make decisions, it's going to be so natural, natural that nobody's going to be able to undo that.

10. 1:02:02

    And but the A.I., you're not going to be able to tell the difference when we have A.I. making decisions by 2029. You're not going to be able to tell the difference between human and A.I. It's going to you're not going to be able to tell which is. Switch. Interesting. And I wonder if you'll be able to tell up with your decision or your AI's decision. It's good for the question here. Hi there. This episode is brought to you by