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The Diary Of A CEO · 5 min · Dec 4, 2025
China's AI rules are stricter than the race narrative suggests
Stuart Russell says China's AI rules are strict, including a ban on systems that could escape human control. He argues China is emphasizing AI tools for productivity, not just a race to AGI.
Stuart Russell is a computer science professor at UC Berkeley and director of the Center for Human-Compatible AI.
Co-wrote the standard AI textbook, directs Berkeley's Center for Human-Compatible AI and wrote Human Compatible.

Steven Bartlett, Host · Host, The Diary Of A CEO
About this segment
Stuart Russell says China's AI rules are strict, including a ban on systems that could escape human control. He argues China is emphasizing AI tools for productivity, not just a race to AGI.
From “An AI Expert Warning: 6 People Are (Quietly) Deciding Humanity’s Future!”, Dec 4, 2025. Watch the full episode
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“So this is a completely false narrative, because China's AI regulations are actually quite strict, even compared to European Union.”
Takeaways
- He disputes claims that China has no AI regulation.
- He says Chinese rules prohibit AI systems that could escape human control.
- He describes China's strategy as using AI to improve productivity.
In this episode
Full episode- 1:39:18Safe AI must learn human goals rather than receive fixed objectives5:47
- 1:18:46Automation can shrink employment even as production grows7:40
- 30:15AI could improve itself by doing AI research3:59
- 1:32:59AI safety needs a measurable extinction-risk limit4:44
1:13:48China's AI rules are stricter than the race narrative suggests4:30
- 13:49AGI's bottleneck may be understanding, not compute3:30Up next
- 35:53AI tests show systems can favor self-preservation2:33
- 51:12Humanlike robots can trigger misplaced empathy5:28
Transcript
From the transcript The Diary Of A CEO publishes with the episode.
- 1:13:55
What's your reasoning? Just thinking about the power dynamics of what's happening now, how difficult it would be to get the US in particular to regulate in favor of safety. So I think what's clear from talking to the companies is they are not going to develop anything resembling safe AGI, unless they're forced to by the government. At the moment, the US government in particular, which regulates most of the leading companies in AI is not only refusing to regulate, but even trying to prevent the states from regulating. And they're doing that at the behest of a faction within Silicon Valley called the accelerationists who believe that the faster we get to AGI, the better. And when I say behest, I mean, also they paid them a large amount of money.
- 1:15:01
Jensen Hanger, the CEO of NVIDIA, said who is a friend of mine that doesn't know, the guy making all the chips that are powering AI said China is going to win the AI race arguing it is just a nanosecond behind the United States. China have produced 24,000 AI papers compared to just 6,000 from the US, more than the combined output of the US, the UK and the EU. China is anticipated to quickly roll out their new technologies both domestically and developing new technologies for other developing countries. So the accelerators, or the accelerators, I think you call them the accelerants. Accelerationists. Accelerationists. I mean, they would say, well, if we don't, then China will. So we have to, we have to go fast. It's another version of the race that the companies are in with each other. We know that this race is heading off a cliff, but we can't stop.
- 1:15:59
So we're all just going to go off this cliff. And obviously that's nuts. Right? I mean, we're all looking at each other saying, yeah, there's a cliff over there running as fast as we can towards this cliff. We're looking at each other saying, why aren't we stopping? So the narrative in Washington, which I think Jensen Wang is either reflecting or perhaps promoting, is that China has completely unregulated. And America would only slow itself down if it regulates AI in any way. So this is a completely false narrative, because China's AI regulations are actually quite strict, even compared to European Union.
- 1:16:48
And China's government has explicitly acknowledged the need and their regulations are very clear. You can't build AI systems that could escape human control. And not only that, I don't think they view the race in the same way as, okay, we just need to be the first to create AGI. I think they're more interested in figuring out how to disseminate AI as a set of tools within their economy to make their economy more productive and so on. So that's their version of the race. But of course, they still want to build the weapons, adversaries, right, so that they can take down, I don't know, Taiwan, if they want to.
- 1:17:33
So weapons are a separate matter. And I'm happy to talk about weapons. But just in terms of control, economic domination, they don't view putting all your eggs in the AGI basket as the right strategy, so they want to use AI, even in its present form, to make their economy much more efficient and productive. And also, to give people new capabilities and better quality of life. And I think the U.S. could do that as well. And typically, Western countries don't have