Governments may regulate access to compute rather than chips

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Transcribed by machine (Whisper) from the episode’s audio, so a word may be off here and there.

1. 36:48

   i have a view that humans try to organize into groups organizations to try and create power that benefits the members of that group so you know we form tribes we form communities. And in a sense, governments are a form of an organization. It's an organizational coalition of individuals to achieve an objective for, in the case of a democracy, the majority of the voters. And as a result, organizations in a world of, you know, call it pseudo-limited resources compete with each other for those resources. Nonprofits, for-profits, governments, they're all effectively competing for resources because the individuals that they represent the interests of are going to be served if they get more resources, get more power, get more influence. So to some extent, the power of AI and the influence it enables in terms of

2. 37:56

   media, in terms of capital accumulation, in terms of changing people's minds, in terms of aggregating resources through its competitive capacity, productivity, etc., makes it a bit of a threat to government organizations. And so to Chamath's point, if one of the manifestations of that is that AI is now accruing more interest from capital than governments, governments aren't going to want to let that happen. And the governments, whether they're right or left, are going to fight for the AI to become either part of the government and the government to subsume the AI or control the AI organizations. And this is why I've kind of argued the case, I think that you're going to end up seeing compute get regulated in the future where compute capacity is going to be assigned by government. And they're going to pass laws to

3. 38:48

   try and do that post production that is like meaning they're not going to control the chips, they're going to control the actual compute layer and they're going to determine who's going to get access to what amount of compute i think for governments to compete and i think one of the ways this is going to play out to chamoff's point is in the near term in capital there's more capital going to be ai organizations and the government the governments aren't going to want to let that happen so they're going to try and stop the data centers because then i've never seen something in my adult working life where a complex of a handful of companies are effectively competing with governments now for capital because you've never seen companies in an organized manner have one very narrow thing that they need money for that is a one-way bet on something that

4. 39:34

   attracts the same amount of money that would otherwise go to a traditional two three four five-year ten-year bond auction it's it's kind of nutty actually and by the way the story you're going to hear from both sides is a story of which side benefits the people more and that's going to be the narrative argument which is going to be every side's going to say the other side's lying because remember if one side's lying and another side's not lying the side that's not lying says, hey, those guys are lying, and they're correct. The side that is lying de facto says that the other side is lying because they're liars. And so you'll hear both sides screaming, we are the better path for society. We are the better path for humanity. It's either government or private market AI. And that'll be the huge battle that's going to brew over the next half

5. 40:21

   decade. And we'll see which one. Politicians are for sale and Dario and Anthropic should start buying, just like the right did. Oh, they already have. I don't see them with champions. Where are