Karp sees deterrence as a way to keep US troops from fighting

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1. 13:07

   won the Dwight Eisenhower Award. And this was a little bit of a surprise to your employees, but you got a little choked up because of the impact of what that is to troops. And so could you just explain what that experience was like for you? Well, first of all, Eisenhower has this German name. He's from a German religious minority family. He was a pivotal figure at gunpoint in desegregation. He helped win the war, or pivotal. But the main thing is, you know, I lived in Germany for a lot of my adult life, which was a phenomenal experience, which maybe they went into in too much graphic detail uh what are you talking about yeah we gotta know it's like uh it was um i went for the right reasons and i may have stayed for the wrong reasons but it's okay i uh and i so i have um a lot of uh i mean deep understanding and and i'll get to

2. 14:06

   this and deep appreciation for the german culture i think one of the craziest things is you have this whole thing online where people like like laud the nazis like i spent a lot of time talking to nazis like real nazis and like understanding what made them tick and what made them i mean part of the crazy thing about people a lot the nazis nowadays is there's not a single nazi that would ever have included them in their movement and would have shipped them off to the camps and quicker maybe than they shipped me off to the camps uh but um and uh and it's like it's uh but The thing that is crazy unique about America, whether it's, you know, somebody from Montana, Iowa, going over to fight because they believed in America and they believed in the greater good.

3. 14:58

   And there really was this was a primarily moral. It's like honestly, it's like Lincoln. this guy fought to end slavery it was not economic it was moral like what other culture actually engaged in civil war just because it was wrong what was happening in the south that was the primary i'm not like the modern way of reading is like economics it's like maybe but the primary reason why americans fought and died was moral primary reason why americans fought and died in world war ii was moral and it would they had no tethering like when you're a soldier from the north dying to fight slavery it's not that you have i don't know black relatives and friends it's because you think this is wrong when you were over uh fighting uh the nazis or imperial japan you were doing it because you thought America was a superior way of living.

4. 16:00

   and this wasn't wrong now you can and like and then whatever one thinks about these things no other culture does this it's the same thing of how did we get meritocracy until recently in america meritocracy is a like one of the things that we don't often value enough like even now in europe like like in europe if when i was involved in hiring at uh this institute i worked at and one of the biggest problems was i was always like of course we need to hire the best person. That's not the way it works in Germany or Norway. Like the best person doesn't get hired ever. And so like, you know, like at our institutions, like at our elite institutions, we embrace meritocracy, we embrace the higher good, and we fought and died for that. Like one of, and then the fact that Pallinger can bring that kind of person home more safely and

5. 16:53

   arguably whether people believe this or not, we can, you know, the primary purpose of Pallinger is to be so dominant that those people don't have to fight and die because everyone knows you're going to die 10 times more if you attack America. You want to sleep at night. You want to