Wolf supports pacing AI because current models already enable businesses

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1. 52:00

   After the OpenWeights letter that NVIDIA did that we were talking about a minute ago, there was a different letter that came out with 1,100 people. And this time, both Anthropic and OpenWeights signed that asked government to help deliberately pace the frontier of automated AI research. So basically, the industry kind of asking for a slowdown. Are you in that camp or you think that's just not the way it works?

2. 52:26

   I did sign this letter. I agree. I agree that I think we should go there. I'm also, and you probably have the same feeling as an investor, I have the feeling that even if we stop right now, we would still have quite a good companies we could build on top of what we have right now. I feel like there's a lot of things we can already do with these models and that are already extremely interesting. I feel like there's a lot of things we need to understand and we should do in terms of open science and sharing how they work.

3. 52:57

   So I'm not in the camp of we need to rush really quickly right now. The main question is if we want to slow down a little bit. Also, that would be great because maybe then we don't have four announcements per day that we need to mix in one podcast tomorrow. Maybe I can take one day of the holiday in the summer. But no, I think the main question is can we do it, right? That's the main question here.

4. 53:25

   I think a lot of people would be fine with AI going a little bit slower, being a little bit more open, being a little bit more caring, a bit more like reflexive and trying to understand better, you know, how to do that really well. But the main question, how can we negotiate and how can we organize a slowdown there without having bad incentives where, you know, just one or two players not slowing down will kind of break the whole effect of having a slowdown.

5. 53:54

   And Shira, I don't know if, yeah, I don't think the letter gives any incentives. It might need some collaboration. There was one long blog post called AI2040, I don't know if you read it, that was also advocating for kind of a careful slowdown. and maybe you know somewhere between we go you know full breaks out we go we go as fast as we can and somewhere between we regulate everything so nobody use ai which i think are both stupid solution but something around we try to see if there is a way we could actually pace this a little bit slower i think i think that would be great i don't think we would lose a lot and i think actually also in terms of company creation and all of that we could still have a lot of really great things happening um but yeah i'm in this uh i'm i'm actually a sympathetic to both

6. 54:46

   this and and open source i don't think open source has to be accelerationist per se um dan was saying this is decelerationist i don't think it's also this ratio of deflationist i think these are these are also orthogonal you can be pro open science uh you can be pro openness And you can also think that actually we need to understand how to train this model well, and we need to actually be able to do real science right now.