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Daniel Kokotajlo

Executive Director, AI Futures Project

Lead author of AI 2027. He left OpenAI's governance team in 2024 and now runs the AI Futures Project, a forecasting nonprofit.

Real Alpha has cut 6 moments of Daniel Kokotajlo (Executive Director, AI Futures Project) talking, from an interview on The Diary Of A CEO published Jul 13, 2026.

What Daniel Kokotajlo said

    1. 19:25

      AI labs plan to automate their own research first

      “The next step, which they've already begun, is to look at the rest of the research process as well.”
      at 19:57
    2. 1:14:22

      Plan A would slow AI and make frontier research transparent

      “We advocate for total research transparency, which means that on the training data centers that are training the new models, they basically have to publish everything.”
      at 1:20:03
    3. 13:18

      OpenAI's expected safety pause gave way to continued racing

      “once we started getting to AIs that could maybe automate the AI research process, we would pause and figure out how to make it safe.”
      at 13:39
    4. 56:03

      AI could erase the usual path from one job to another

      “But we are talking about a hypothetical future situation in which everything gets automated.”
      at 56:19
    5. 1:34:21

      Job loss could also strip people of political power

      “when people lose their jobs, they're not just threatened with loss of income, they're also threatened with loss of political power.”
      at 1:35:26
    6. 1:46:11

      He would not permanently shut down AI, though he is torn

      “The people right now are the people we should prioritize.”
      at 1:49:16

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