Karp links open borders to lower worker value

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1. 5:50

   people at the bottom. Is some part of their criticism about the situation in Gaza? Oh so I'm getting now you can get to no well first of all I get yelled out about you know what I get yelled at most about is actually enforcing the border. That's number one. So like our southern border. Our southern border. Like, so again, I'll go through all three issues. I get yelled at about, first of all, for decades I got yelled at. So there are legitimate issues to go over, but I just want, for those of you who don't know the history, I've been yelled at for 20 years and protested primarily for supporting special operations in America. And you just got to imagine that.

2. 6:29

   I'm being protested for bringing soldiers home alive and killing our enemies. And these are people who serve our country and have been largely screwed by both parties. Like both parties have totally screwed them. And so I've been yelled. So that's what I got yelled at. And then I got yelled at about that every single day. Then I got yelled at under Biden, under Obama, Biden, and especially, obviously, if Trump's doing it, you're definitely getting yelled at for enforcing the border. Now, I want to say, I don't understand how in the world of AI, you cannot be for somewhat of a constrained border. Because we can make it work for every single person who's actually American. And we can make laborers more valuable. We need extra labor that's not either completely the most talented in the world, like many people in this room, or who are bringing skills. Also,

3. 7:22

   we have enough transparency, you can't say you don't know who's in your country. It's complete BS. It's completely anti-correlated, by the way, with being progressive. I grew up in the most progressive family ever, and every Friday night at Shabbat, there was a lecture on how the Republicans are screwing our country by undermining the worker and bringing in cheap labor. So, okay, so I got yelled at about that, so, and then I fought about that, actually mostly, and then commercially got yelled at about how could you have these FDEs, it's going to blow up your multiple.

4. 7:49

   Now everybody wants to be an FDE, but, okay, so now you get, now I'm getting yelled at primarily about ice. What's going on? How's it going on? Is the treatment just? The one thing I would say, and I think we can go through each one of these individual things, the weird, the obvious fact is, if you care about not being surveilled illegally, if you care about the treatment of people who come into the country illegally but deserve adequate treatment, if you care about lives in Gaza, in Ukraine, and all over the world where Palantir is used, you're going to want the best software in the world because it's the only way you can reduce and more precisely target the people and justify and actually the only way where you can say this person did this and they deserve to go and so you know um and and in each

5. 8:37

   one of these things has to be steel manned and and then let's do that for the the second one the border uh tucker said yesterday when he spoke to president trump there was no way to know is there 30 million are there 30 million people here illegally 40 50 whatever it happens to be you say you call BS on that, we could easily do it. I didn't say we could easily do it, and I'm not calling BS on that. I'm actually saying it's a very, very hard problem. But in the world of AI and software, you can't say it can't be done. It could very easily be done if we put cameras everywhere and we just did facial recognition. But we don't want to live in that.

6. 9:11

   It could be very easily done if you eviscerate our civil liberties. Yeah, that's not being done. Right. That's like, I could grow your revenue at 400%, but I'll lose money in perpetuity. It's not a business. Yeah, of course. And so let's talk about what the solution to that would be. The border issue is actually a bit overstated. You have 80, 90% of the country believes the border should be orderly. That is actually something that most people... Okay, sorry.

7. 9:36

   I just got to interrupt you. 80, 90% of people believing in it happening are completely just non-connected. Well, of course. Whatever the reason the Biden administration didn't do it, you know, that's over and now we're here and it's closed. But what would your solution be to identifying the people who are... Well, again, I think you're jumping over a lot of things. It happened... What's interesting about political parties in America is that they're anti-correlated with what they claim. Democrats claim to be progressive like me. Having a border is not progressive. President Trump is conservative. Having a border is progressive.

8. 10:10

   And unfortunately, until we change our polity, the people actually get a say on the border. By the way, the single best example of this is in Europe. So how do you explain the complete dysfunction in Europe? You know, most Europeans, Germans, there are many Germans in the audience. Hello. How many of you guys don't, how many of you guys are happy with the immigration situation you have in Germany?

9. 10:32

   None. How many will talk about it publicly? How many will do anything? And then you get to these issues. The polity will frame the issue so that there is no solution. The only solution is to accept a solution no one wants. And that's what we had. And part of the problem, the reason the border is such an interesting thing is the reason you get an open border is politicians do not want to address the real problems of the society, which would mean the workers of today have more value tomorrow than they have today. Because they have no earthly clue how to do that, they're like, we'll just open the border and we'll get free labor. And if you're on the left, we'll get people who vote for us. And the reason, the way in which if you kind of steel man your questions, Gaza, Ukraine, border, you have to raise the moral standard. So it's not, again, the way you

10. 11:22

    led this is like if we just put up a camera. Yes, you can stop terrorism or you can have civil liberties. It's a little bit like you can have growth without revenue or you can have revenue without growth. If you want to solve the problem, you have to increase civil liberties and stop people from being in your country illegally. And the reason it doesn't happen is because there's slippage in the execution which is absolutely purposeful. And if we don't want this country to be what Europe is now, and I lived in Europe most of my life, my grandmother, if German law was made any sense would be German and I would be have a German passport. If we don't want that.

11. 12:00

    You have to close the border, you have to make sure that people who have a right to be here get to stay, people who don't have a right to stay get treated fairly. By the way, both sides have to step up. It's not enough to say, I'm against the border or whatever, but I have no solution for what's going to happen for people, which is unfortunately what my part of it is. What's your solution for, just your personal solution, for what to do with 30 million people who are here illegally?

12. 12:26

    What would you do? Well, first of all, I mean, my personal solution would be you divide the pie. Everybody who's criminal, criminal adjacent, or has anything to do with crime is going to leave, and I'm going to make it so that they self-deport because I'm going to come tomorrow in a way you don't like it. That's number one. And there's 90%... That's easy. Yeah. No, you have a lot of... No, no. It's easy to agree on.

13. 12:49

    Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's felons here. It's easy to agree on. Yeah, but the paradigm is like, it's easy because again, you're like, in any case, these things are much, much harder than they look. As an example, how do you do that without eviscerating our civil liberties? How do we make sure the criminals, how do you know someone's criminal? What standard of practice do you use to define if someone's criminal?

14. 13:10

    Are all criminals the same? Because de facto, if you go broad brush the way you basically are, it's like, yes, but being in the country illegally is a felon. killing someone or potentially kill someone of a different kind. How do you deal with the people that are around them? How do you deal with law enforcement people, databases that are not made public to you? How do you deal with imputed data? How do you deal with data?

15. 13:31

    How do you do predictive... That's the question, so you're restating the question. I'm asking you to answer it. Well, I'm restating the question, so it's a question. That's the thing. Well, let me... So I'm hoping you'd answer it.