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Gil Luria says investors are pricing two opposing AI fears, while Ian Bremmer argues Trump’s speech sidestepped issues hurting him.
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- Gil Luria · Head of Technology Research, D.A. Davidson
- Ian Bremmer · Founder & President, Eurasia Group
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Gil Luria says 80% is the likely AI middle path
- Luria puts an 80% outcome on neither AI extreme, with productivity gains more likely.
- Nvidia's visibility supports demand, but does not establish payback or software durability.
- Leaders should budget around deployed capacity, workflow gains, and cash generation.
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Nvidia’s outlook confirms demand, not investment payback
The episode's central evidence is not simply another beat. Luria said Nvidia expects sequential growth through the rest of the year and sees visibility into calendar 2027. He connected that visibility to longer customer commitments and rapid data-center rollouts.
Elson opened with Nvidia's data-center revenue up 75% year over year and current-quarter projections above expectations. Those results support the demand side of the buildout, but they do not measure each buyer's return on capital.
Orders may be visible long before power, buildings, and servers become productive assets. Luria did not offer customer utilization, contract pricing, or expected payback periods. Those missing measures limit what the results can establish about investment returns.
A later October 2026 Prof G Markets episode featured Luria discussing Microsoft's long-term commitments and short-term neocloud capacity. He said that structure could help Microsoft avoid capital-markets financing. That is a funding example, not proof every buyer can replicate it.
In a later October 2026 a16z Podcast episode, Amazon CEO Andy Jassy discussed demand. Jassy said $220 billion in capex would still leave meaningful demand unmet. These later comments sharpen the distinction between demand visibility and investment returns.
- GLGil Luria · Prof G Markets · Oct 29Microsoft limits AI spending to what its cash flow can support
Andy Jassy · a16z Podcast · Oct 23Customer demand guides Amazon’s AI infrastructure spending
Our read
Nvidia's outlook lowers uncertainty about demand, but leaves payback conditional on deployment and funding. The buildout is better evidenced than its eventual returns.
The two AI fears cannot both explain every decline
Luria named two opposite anxieties. One says data-center construction will stop before spending pays back. The other says AI will destroy industries too quickly.
A weak adoption case imperils infrastructure payback. A rapid-displacement case threatens incumbents even if adoption succeeds. Investors can worry about both, but they are different explanations for the same falling stock.
Elson pointed to software selloffs alongside Nvidia's results. Luria said fears about software were newer than concerns about the data-center buildout. That timing helps explain why multiple narratives can weigh on markets at once.
A later October 2026 Prof G Markets episode featured Scott Galloway discussing infrastructure bottlenecks. He said the constraint had moved from chips to electrons. That later observation supports a limit on deployment, not a lack of demand.
So an order book alone cannot tell operators whether compute will become usable on schedule. Track powered, available capacity separately from chips ordered and dollars committed.
Our read
The risks can coexist in a portfolio, but they should not be collapsed into one story. Strong orders weaken a sudden-demand-collapse case without proving every investment will pay off.
Luria expects workplace changes to arrive unevenly
Luria's labor case is about sequence, not immunity. He described software engineers as already affected by AI, while saying nurses probably would not be affected for decades.
He expects professions to change at different rates, with hiring shifting and workers moving between roles. That is a forecast, not evidence that displaced workers will transition smoothly.
For example, a company could see coding assistance improve delivery without expecting every engineering role to disappear. Leaders still need separate measures for output gains, staffing changes, and training needs.
A later October 2026 episode of The Pragmatic Engineer featured Will Larson discussing managers returning to hands-on engineering. His example offers one possible adaptation, not proof that broader workforce shifts will be easy.
This episode gives no job counts, adoption rates, or time series to test Luria's forecast. Nor does it quantify which tasks change first outside his contrast between software engineers and nurses.
Our read
Luria's productivity case is more useful as a planning horizon than as reassurance about specific jobs. Companies need separate measures for output gains and workforce disruption.
Salesforce’s slowdown has causes beyond AI
Elson reported Salesforce revenue growth of 12% and $35 billion in remaining performance obligations. Luria said Informatica contributed at least three or four points to growth, leaving the underlying rate in high single digits.
Elson described the revenue guidance as a meet against $46 billion expected. The stock still fell nearly six percent after hours. That price move alone does not establish that AI caused the disappointment.
For example, a 12% headline can mask slower underlying expansion when an acquisition contributes several points. Separating reported growth from organic growth helps identify whether demand or dealmaking is driving the result.
Luria said Salesforce was decelerating and losing share to HubSpot, Monday, ServiceNow, Braze, and Klaviyo. He presented those company-specific problems as a better explanation than AI for Salesforce's results.
Still, the episode gives no churn, win-rate, or retention figures to test his account of share losses. The diagnosis is plausible, but the operating evidence shown on air is incomplete.
Our read
Salesforce is a poor stand-in for the whole software sector if its growth is slowing for company-specific reasons. Luria's explanation is testable, but this segment does not provide enough data to verify it.
Luria’s 80% middle path is a judgment call
Luria put 10% on the outcome where data centers are overbuilt and 10% on AI running everything over within two years. He assigned 80% to neither extreme.
Earlier in the conversation, he had described the likelier alternative as productivity growth that could raise labor value and help companies grow and hire. After the probabilities, he restated the middle path as productivity gains and better software companies.
The probability split makes his risk weighting visible. Yet he gave no scenario definitions, base rates, or sensitivity analysis for assigning each tail exactly 10%. The number is a view, not a model demonstrated on air.
Luria is head of technology research at D.A. Davidson and also made an investment case for Nvidia and selected software stocks. That role matters when weighing his market outlook, though the segment does not disclose holdings or model inputs.
A CEO should treat 80% as an explicit point of view, not a planning probability. Stress-test budgets against both tails rather than letting a median scenario erase them.
“And there's an 80% outcome that neither of those terrible things is going to happen.”
Our read
The 80% figure is useful because it exposes Luria's assumptions, not because the number is independently established. Use the scenario structure, but set probabilities against your own business evidence.
Software repricing matters only when cash survives
Luria said investors were shifting from revenue multiples toward earnings and cash flow. He cited Microsoft at 20 times cash flow, and ServiceNow, Dynatrace, and Adobe below 20 times earnings or cash flow.
He put Snowflake, Datadog, and Shopify at maybe 35 times cash flow. Those are Luria's on-air figures, not an independent valuation check in this segment. The word maybe matters, as does the chosen measure.
A later October 2026 Big Technology Podcast episode featured SemiAnalysis founder Dylan Patel discussing infrastructure returns. Patel said Amazon's AI infrastructure investments were profitable. That later assertion challenges blanket capex pessimism, but does not verify every builder's economics.
Cash-flow multiples depend on durable cash generation, business quality, and which costs are included. A selloff can lower a multiple without making a vulnerable product durable or a costly investment worthwhile.
For instance, a buyer can compare labor saved, revenue gained, and compute commitments against cash costs in one workflow. Multiples alone cannot tell operators which tools to deploy.
So keep pilots and vendor reviews tied to workflows. Track renewal rates, gross margin, realized usage, and infrastructure utilization before treating a lower valuation as evidence of value.
Our read
Valuation evidence matters only after the business and its cash flows pass operational scrutiny. A repricing creates a chance to reassess, not proof that a company is cheap.
What it means for you
- Track committed demand. Separate announced commitments from orders that convert into powered, utilized capacity. Report each step monthly alongside the cash committed.
- Stress-test both tails. Use Luria's 10% overbuild and 10% rapid-disruption scenarios as prompts, not probabilities. Model their effects on utilization, labor plans, and vendor exposure.
- Measure workflow gains. Choose one workflow and baseline cycle time, quality, cost, and staffing before deployment. Compare realized gains after each quarter, not model capability.
- Recheck software vendors. For critical tools, monitor renewals, seat use, win-loss reasons, and product-specific AI features. Separate acquisition-driven growth from organic expansion.
What to watch
- Whether Nvidia's sequential-growth outlook and customer commitments convert into utilization and cash returns.
- Whether software growth reflects organic demand, share losses, or acquisition contributions.
- Whether power and financing bottlenecks delay the use of already ordered compute.
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Read it with Pro, 7 days free- 1:39Nvidia's guidance shows unusual visibility
Luria says Nvidia’s results were striking not only for their scale, but because the company expects sequential growth through the rest of the year. He says its customers are making longer-term commitments and Nvidia has visibility into data-center construction extending into calendar 2027.
- 2:52Two AI fears move in opposite directions
Luria says investors fear both that data-center spending will prove unsustainable and that AI will rapidly destroy software businesses and jobs. He calls both outcomes extreme, arguing that AI’s effects will vary by profession and unfold over time rather than all at once.
- 6:22Luria says Salesforce is losing share
Luria says Salesforce’s growth is slowing for reasons he sees as separate from AI. He says the quarter’s 12% revenue growth included 3% or 4% from Informatica, and argues Salesforce is losing share to HubSpot, Monday, ServiceNow, Braze, Klaviyo and others.
- 8:31Luria sees opportunity in fearful markets
Luria says both AI fears are weighing on stocks, alongside wider jitters about U.S. policy, geopolitics and trade. He assigns a 10% probability to each extreme and says an 80% middle case—where AI improves productivity—has made some software stocks more attractive, including Microsoft, ServiceNow, Adobe, Snowflake and Datadog.
- 14:44Bremmer says the speech offered little new
Bremmer says the release of a Venezuelan opposition figure was a meaningful success, and he welcomed the U.S. hockey team’s appearance. But he says Trump did little to address the economy or Epstein, and argued that the president gave voters little reason to support him and his allies before the midterms.
- 20:33Bremmer says the tariff ruling constrained Trump
Bremmer says the new tariff process limits Trump’s ability to impose duties unilaterally and gives other countries a chance to respond. He argues that the independent judiciary constrains presidential power, and says markets had largely anticipated the Supreme Court ruling.
- 23:21Bremmer gives Trump mixed credit on wars
Bremmer says Trump and his administration helped secure some ceasefires, including in Gaza, where he credits the administration with helping release hostages and advance a U.S.-led peace plan. He says Trump advanced peace efforts in other cases, but notes that some sides were not fighting when he intervened and that the Russia-Ukraine war remains unresolved.
Published Feb 26, 2026.
Transcript · 24 min read
Prof G Markets, hosted by Ed Elson, with Gil Luria and Ian Bremmer.
Transcribed by machine (Whisper) from the episode’s audio, so a word may be off here and there. Where the podcast’s audio and the video part ways, some times are a minute or so off.
Listen to Herken Fraude, Voorkom Fraude. A podcast from the United Bank Association. Today's number two. That's how many affairs with Russian women Bill Gates admitted to have had after he apologized for his ties to Jeffrey Epstein. The Microsoft founder says he, quote, did nothing illicit, and saw nothing illicit, and that he, quote, never spent any time with the women around him. Today's other number is zero. That's how many people believe him. Money market's mad. If money is evil, then that building is hell. The show goes on! The folks in there have watched the show, show! Welcome to Prof G Markets. I'm Ed Elson. It is February 26th. Let's check in on yesterday's market vitals. The major indices climbed ahead of NVIDIA's earnings. More on that in a moment.
Bitcoin bounced from recent lows, rallying back towards $70,000. The price of gold, silver, and platinum increased. And finally, Netflix rose 6% in its best day in more than a year. That rally followed reports that Paramount's new offer may be good enough to win the bidding war for Warner Brothers Discovery. OK, what else is happening? The world's most valuable company, NVIDIA, reported earnings yesterday that beat expectations on the top and bottom lines. That was largely driven by data center revenue, which rose 75% year over year in the quarter. Revenue projections for the current quarter also came in higher than investors had expected.
NVIDIA stock rose as much as 5% after hours, but then moderated during the call. Salesforce also reported yesterday, but those earnings had a very different outcome. The company's revenue grew 12% in the fiscal fourth quarter, which was its fastest growth rate in two years. However, investors were disappointed with the company's revenue guidance for 2026. That sent the stock down nearly 6% after hours. Joining us to unpack these earnings, we are speaking with Gil Luria, Head of Technology Research at DA Davidson. Gil, good to see you. I want to start with NVIDIA here. another incredible monster quarter, this keeps on happening.
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Everyone thinks that we're going to see an issue and everyone gets very anxious and then just an unbelievable quarter. Your initial reactions? Well, not only is it, and it is unbelievable, the numbers are just getting staggering, especially for a company that's so profitable to be able to grow at these rates continuously. But beyond that, they just said they're going to grow sequentially for the rest of the year. They don't typically give more than one quarter out. So the fact that they have that visibility and talked about that going into Calendry 2027 tells you that they have more visibility than ever.
Their customers are making longer-term commitments than ever. They can see the rollout of the data centers happening at such a rate and with such a backlog that they know that they'll be able to continue to grow from here on out, which is, again, And very impressive, especially when the numbers are this big.
“The other level of anxiety is the exact opposite. Oh my goodness, AI is so potent, it's going to run us over.”
I think that the Salesforce earnings is a good sort of foil to the NVIDIA earnings, both coming out the same day, which is a reflection of those AI anxieties that you just brought up there, that AI is going to be so great that it's going to kill all of the legacy companies. I look at the Salesforce earnings, revenue grew 12%. That's very strong. I looked at remaining performance obligations, $35 billion, which is actually higher than expected. The only issue was the revenue guidance for the year, which everyone is saying was a miss, but to me, it was a meet. I mean, they said $45.8 to $46.2 billion. Wall Street expected $46 billion. I mean, that sounds like exactly what they said. But shares are tanking, down nearly 6% after hours. What does that earnings tell you about the AI anxiety story? And what do you think
“Shareholders only get cash flows. The value of a company is only the value of their future cash flows.”
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needs. While domestic issues dominated the speech, Trump did briefly touch on foreign policy as well. He claimed that he's ended eight wars and warned that Iran is rebuilding its nuclear weapons program. He also briefly acknowledged the, quote, unfortunate ruling from the Supreme Court that deemed the tariffs illegal. Earlier that day, his new 10% global tariff rate officially went into effect. So here to discuss the State of the Union, we're speaking with Ian Bremmer, founder and president of Eurasia Group. Ian, thank you for joining us on Profity Markets. My pleasure. So this State of the Union, Trump spoke for a record 107 minutes, lots to unpack here. Let's just start with your initial reactions. What stood out to you?
I had 108 minutes, but I mean, you know, we might have started and stopped the timer. Is it different points. You never know. It was very long and there wasn't much new there. I mean, there was a surprise that a high level member of the Venezuelan opposition and someone that would be credible in a democratically elected government released and then surprised right there, introduced to his family on right there in in the Capitol building. That was a pretty big deal, frankly i mean it wasn't just cinematic it is an actual success uh of the trump administration and it's a success for for um uh an attack against an authoritarian regime there's like forces of liberty and freedom this is the kind of thing that any american president if they had done you would say good on them so and and yeah i gotta be excited about having the american American hockey team win the gold. I remember being in Vancouver for the gold medal match back when the Americans and the Canadians liked each other. And it was one of the most exciting sporting events I've ever been to in my life. I don't even like hockey, but everyone was so excited to be there. And frankly, the Americans were pretty happy for the Canadians were there
because they're more excited about hockey at the end of the day. But it was great to see them come home after that extraordinary overtime win that could have easily gone the other way. And there they were and excited and they're athletes first and foremost and they're flying the flag and they're proud to be Americans and everyone was cheering them and that was great to see. But I mean, I'm obviously starting with the good moment. Right. Because, you know, after that, there wasn't a lot. There wasn't a lot. The economy is not doing well. Trump cannot will it. So this is Prof G markets. You know that the average American is not happy about where the economy is. Trump is underwater on that. He didn't mention Epstein, even though it's been what we've been talking about for weeks now. Larry Summers is being forced out of Harvard. He clearly did not want to go.
He was kicking and screaming. There are a lot of Democrats that are getting in trouble. So why is it that Trump is actually not saying a word about this? And it's because it's a two tier judicial system. He's protecting himself. He's protecting his members of his cabinet, his friends. And that's clearly unpopular for him, too. And there are only so many more months to go before midterm elections. And if those elections were today, the Republicans would get thumped pretty badly. And he knows it. He knows it. So this was not an easy speech to give. And, you know, for someone who's only going to have so many opportunities to be in front of the population and really explain to them why it is they need to turn out for him and for the people that are his proxies on the ballot in November.
He didn't do much of that last night, in my view. It sounds like we might agree, or at least my initial reaction to this State of the Union address. I expected it to be, or at least was waiting and preparing for it to be quite awful, or at least somewhat insane, kind of unhinged. that was kind of what I was expecting. What we saw was a speech that was relatively normal and relatively less unhinged, in my view at least, for Trump. And I think one of the things that you bring up there is there was a lot that he didn't say, and it seemed that he was actually weaving around all of the things that seemed to be going wrong for him. The economy would be an interesting one. There were some moments where he flat out lied about things, like when he said, you know prices are coming down which is just not true not um the 18 trillion in foreign investment that didn't really seem to make any sense to me i don't know where he pulled that number from i mean for me the 65 million people that he personally saved in indian pakistan i mean were that true uh you know we should he should He should be president for life. That's pretty extraordinary. Of course, it's utter bollocks. So, yeah, I mean, it is to be fair. You're saying it's normal for Trump. And that's a that's a significant caveat. Yes.
I think that we should try to avoid that caveat because it is still a representative democracy. Look, I mean, the biggest thing he had to respond to was his signature policy for his first year was struck down by the Supreme Court. I've never seen that happen in the State of the Union before. And there the Supreme Court justices are and people that he appointed voted against this signature policy because it was clearly illegal. And he was told by members of his cabinet, this is illegal, sir. You don't need to do this. You can actually do these tariffs in other ways and you're not going to get hit back. And he refuses to listen. That is uniquely batshit crazy. It's an own goal. And now he's got to deal with the consequences of that makes him weaker.
And he seemed quite sheepish about that as well. He seemed quite sheepish about the tariffs. He was mentioning things like the border over and over again, didn't really seem to mention the tariffs at all, which is interesting because, as you say, that is the centerpiece of the policy, and it's the biggest news of the week.
“And you'll note that when the Supreme Court did its ruling, even though it was an extraordinary and historic ruling, the markets didn't really move.”
final question here um we have to ask you because while we have you we really get to speak with you on this program he said he he said he ended eight wars that was the claim and then he listed a bunch of countries he said he ended wars in israel and iran and then he said he's ended the war in gaza but then said it's slightly progressing i forget his exact uh language what do you make of that claim? Is it right? Is it wrong? If so, how wrong? It's, you know, has elements of correctness.
You know, Modi refused to give Trump credit for bringing about the ceasefire. In reality, he and his administration, particularly Marco Rubio, also J.D. Vance at the margins, played a significant role. Not you. laterally, but played a significant role in helping to get those two sides to ceasefire. It is unfortunate that Modi gave him no credit. It is ludicrous that the Pakistani prime minister says he should get the peace prize. But the reality is somewhere in between. Armenian Azerbaijan, he has advanced the cause of peace, but the two sides were not actually fighting when he got engaged. It's a lot easier to end a war when they're not fighting. The case of Israel and Gaza, I give Trump a lot more credit in resolving that conflict to a degree than under Biden.
We actually have a U.S.-led peace plan that got Security Council resolution approval. The Russians and Chinese abstained. Everyone else voted in favor. All of the Gulf states and the countries in the region favored it. Trump facilitated the release of all of the hostages, both living and remains, and has been able to move ahead, a ceasefire that has not held perfectly, but has held more or less with humanitarian restrictions of aid now being largely ended. And so we no longer have mass starvation in Gaza. So, I mean, frankly, I mean, he was lying a lot more dramatically on the economy than he was on foreign policy, in my view. And in some of the places where he hasn't done that well, like Russia, Ukraine, he didn't really mention. I think he got 20 seconds, Russia, Ukraine.
because he said he was going to end the war and he's failed at the end of the war. And he's admitted repeatedly that he's failed at the end of the war. So, I mean, he's not completely untethered from reality. He just frequently chooses not to recognize it when it's inconvenient and uncomfortable. OK, Ian Bremmer, founder and president of Eurasia Group. Ian, thank you. Appreciate your time. Good talking to you. Okay, before we end here, just a quick review of the State of the Union address from me. There's been a lot of talk about the address, as you would expect, but I would like to just take a moment to focus on what was actually said in the address, and more importantly, what wasn't said.
So let's just start with what was said. Interestingly, the issues that Trump talked about the most were actually the ones that he's kind of getting right. For example, the child investment accounts unfortunately named the Trump accounts, which gives every American child a free state. in the stock market. We have discussed why we think this is a great thing in previous episodes, and it surprisingly made a very large appearance in the speech. I did not expect that. He also talked about the cost of healthcare and the cost of pharmaceutical drugs and the cost of energy, which will only go higher as we ramp up these data centers. And he actually offered solutions to those problems, and he did speak to them at length. That is surprisingly pretty good, especially for a guy who usually spends all of his time at the podium rambling from one usually racist talking point to the next now that isn't to say that it was all good he certainly did mix in his fair share of racism calling Somalians quote pirates he also had his fair share of lies he claimed he's brought down prices he hasn't and he also said that he secured $18 trillion of investment, which was probably his dumbest and most egregious lie. But that is kind
of par for the course with Trump at this point. What was most interesting to me about the speech was actually what he didn't say. And that is he barely talked about tariffs. He also didn't talk at all about ICE. He also didn't talk about our relationship with Canada. He didn't talk about our relationship with China. He didn't talk about all of these great trade frameworks that he's been hashing out. And of course, he didn't talk about Epstein. Now, the Epstein omission, I kind of understand. But the rest of those issues, those have been central to his entire agenda. So there's an important question, why isn't he talking about them? Well, I think those omissions were really a tell. Specifically, I think he and his team know that he is actually losing on those issues, and perhaps even further, that he is wrong on those issues, that he's wrong about the tariff policy, wrong about his handling of ICE, wrong about allowing his agents to gun down two American citizens in the middle of the street, wrong about all of this. And so instead of trying to fight these issues on the biggest stage of all, they took what is arguably the smarter route, and that is they chose to ignore them entirely. And so it appears that Trump's team is actually
clocking what is happening here. The fact that 60% of Americans think he is doing a bad job on the economy. The fact that two-thirds of us think his tariffs were a bad idea. The fact that his approval rating has fallen 12% in just one year. Trump is in trouble. And it appears, based on this address, that for the first time, maybe ever, he actually knows it. okay that's it for today this episode was produced by claire miller and alison weiss edited by joel patterson and engineered by benjamin spencer our video editor is brad williams our research team is dan shalan isabella kinsel chris no donahue and mia silverio and our social producer is jake mcpherson thank you for listening to prof g markets from prof g media if you liked what you heard give us a follow i'm ed elson tune in tomorrow for our conversation


