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Real Alpha has cut 8 moments of Jasmine Sun (Independent writer) talking, from an interview on 80,000 Hours Podcast published Jul 21, 2026.
What Jasmine Sun said
What AI insiders say off the record | Jasmine Sun
8 moments · 49 min
- 2:19
AI insiders expect job losses but feel the race is unavoidable
“It's a really scary time. I don't think there's going to be a lot of jobs for them left.”
at 3:22 - 14:04
A few personal beliefs can set the direction of major technologies Pro pick
“they were running out of money until Luke Nozek from Founders Fund, simply out of his personal belief that AGI ought to be possible”
at 17:51 - 32:47
Public backlash grows when workers lack a way to bargain over AI Pro pick
“there are no mediating institutions of that form. If you are a white collar worker in most industries, you are not part of any sort of organization”
at 39:17 - 6:58
Fear of losing leverage is drawing talent into AI labs
“tons of people who were independent writers or independent policy thinkers and policy advocates decide to leave those roles behind in order to get jobs at AI labs.”
at 13:12 - 44:02
AI companies need visible benefits to regain public trust
“When you test UBI with the public, it's extremely unpopular because most Americans really want to work.”
at 47:33 - 22:09
Safety work has different status inside and outside AI labs
“I don't think that you can do especially credible either journalistic work or policy advocacy work if you are employed by a lab.”
at 26:21 - 52:49
China's AI adoption reflects pragmatism more than optimism
“they are more willing to introduce lots of little pieces of iterative legislation around the potential societal harms of AI.”
at 57:29 - 40:16
AI populist coalitions can crowd out frontier safety priorities
“people who are now the most activated around the AI backlash are focused on the set of issues that the experts would prefer”
at 42:48
- 2:19