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Tony Smith CBE
Managing director & chairman, Fortinus Global
Led UK Border Force and the London 2012 border operation; advises governments and industry on border management.
Real Alpha has cut 7 moments of Tony Smith CBE (Managing director & chairman, Fortinus Global) talking, from an interview on TRIGGERnometry published Oct 21, 2026.
What Tony Smith CBE said
TRIGGERnometry · "I Policed the Border for 40 Years - the System is Broken" - Tony Smith CBE
7 moments · 28 min
- 22:54
Why Tony Smith says arrivals need longer screening
“The passport gives you your name, your date of birth, your nationality, your travel.”
at 23:28 - 30:28
Why Tony Smith says deterrence matters more than gang arrests Pro pick
“The most important thing, though, you should do is break the business model, right?”
at 32:31 - 34:21
Tony Smith says safe returns need suitable vessels and French consent Pro pick
“The first thing you're doing is pulling them out of the water, putting them on your boat.”
at 36:32 - 6:45
Tony Smith says French checks cut asylum intake
“So we managed to get asylum intake right down from about 100,000 to about 25,000 over two years, which was pretty good.”
at 9:44 - 17:21
Tony Smith says asylum delays led to temporary admission
“we couldn't demonstrate to a court that we could remove this person quickly, so you're suddenly now under pressure to grant them temporary admission into the country.”
at 20:00 - 41:19
Tony Smith says leaving the ECHR would not be enough
“what you really want is a law that says you can't claim human rights at all, you can't claim anything”
at 43:30 - 1:04:14
Tony Smith says border reform needs legal drafters
“the real first thing you've got to do is you've got to find someone that's going to write that law for you.”
at 1:06:00
- 22:54
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