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All-In · 3 min · Jul 11, 2025

The ruling cleared workforce planning, not implementation

Travis and Keith Rabois distinguish presidential management authority from Congress's control of appropriations.

In this episode

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  4. 30:04Human-labeling businesses may have a short runway3 min
  5. 1:17:33The ruling cleared workforce planning, not implementation3 min
  6. 1:03:33Super PACs can now fund campaign ground operations6 min
“this EO is only approved to allow for the planning. I think the vote might be closer.”
KRKeith Raboisat 1:19:37 · All-In
1:19:37

Takeaways

  1. The order allowed agencies to prepare workforce reduction plans.
  2. Actual implementation could face a closer court review.
  3. Congress's instructions may shape what the president can change.

About this segment

Travis and Keith Rabois distinguish presidential management authority from Congress's control of appropriations. Keith says the 8–1 order only cleared planning; a specific reduction plan may face closer review.

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  • David Friedberg, Host · CEO, Ohalo

    Founded The Climate Corporation, sold to Monsanto for about $1.1B in 2013.

From “Grok 4 Wows, The Bitter Lesson, Third Party, AI Browsers, SCOTUS backs POTUS on RIFs”, Jul 11, 2025. Watch the full episode

Transcript

Transcribed by machine (Whisper) from the episode’s audio, so a word may be off here and there.

  1. 1:17:39

    Travis to actually file this but Travis if you are living in the age of AI efficiency right now operations of companies is changing dramatically can you imagine telling somebody you you can be ceo but you can't change personnel that's the job you get to be ceo but you just can't change the players on the team you can buy the knicks but you can't change the coach you know you can grow you just can't shrink it it's like running a unionized company which actually does exist are large companies where you can't do any of these things right do they still exist or are they all gone quickly yeah probably i think this just gets back to what what is actually congress authorizing when a bill occurs and there's certain things that are specific and certain things that aren't and i don't i'm not sure that in a lot of these bills it's not very specific about exactly

  2. 1:18:32

    how many people must be hired and so if it's i'm just doing the common man's sort of approach to this, which is like, if, if the law says you have to hire X number of people, then that is what it is. If the law says you, here's some money to spend here, the ways in which to spend it, but it's not specific about how many people you hire, then that is different. Yeah. It should be outcome-based. Hey, here's the goal. Here's the, the key objectives, right?

  3. 1:19:00

    Travis is totally right. Like there are, there's a variety of different laws, some with incredible specificities, some with very broad manage. The constitution clearly says that all executive power resides in the president of the United States, period. There's no exceptions there. However, Congress does appropriate money. And post-Watergate, many people think Congress has the power to force the president to spend the money. And you can debate that. You can debate it on a per statute basis. And that will be more nuanced. And that's going to get litigated whether the president can refuse to spend money that Congress explicitly instructed him to spend, sometimes called impoundment. That's a very interesting intellectual debate. This one's a little bit easier. It'll get more complicated again, like this EO is only approved to allow

  4. 1:19:46

    for the planning. I think the vote might be closer. I think there's still a majority on the Supreme Court for the actual implementation, but it may not be 8-1 when there's a specific plan that has to navigate its way through the courts again. Yeah, it's super fascinating. Yeah, I wonder if they're going to get to the point where they're going to say in every bill, you need to hire this number of people to hit this goal.