Cancer care is about more than finding a cure

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1. 14:20

   But like some random would just tweet like, oh, AI is about to cure cancer or like this kind of stuff, right? Like AI is like very eminently about to cure cancer because I'm like, you know, some research or something. And I saw Kate, the former CMO, tweet this saying like to actually give frontier cancer care is like very difficult from the standard care. Like, can you talk a little bit more about this? Like how can people actually even get this frontier, like state-of-the-art care?

2. 14:44

   Like you have to spend a shit ton of money and like really go out of your way, right? Yeah, I mean, and I appreciate that you and I have the shared experience of actually supporting loved ones through cancer. So, you know it intimately in the way that I do. I think there's such a journey, right? It's not just the treat. I know when people say cure cancer, I think a lot of time what they're talking about is the treatment, like having an actual cure in the form of some sort of therapeutic or something that can actually fully reverse the disease.

3. 15:14

   But to me, surviving cancer is so much more than that. that's obviously really important i i do i do think we should point to this technology towards science and towards that that piece of the problem for sure and we and we are um but there's this whole journey of like from the moment that you get the first diagnosis or actually even upstream of that the moment that you think to even do the preventative screen or maybe you uh experience some symptom that gives you this trigger of like maybe i should get this checked out like that's for me that was the scariest part of like going from that sort of uncertainty of an early sign all the way to diagnosis you're you're hanging in limbo with a lot of uncertainty and then once you get the diagnosis that's to me that was an equally difficult part of

4. 15:56

   that that limbo period of now i have a diagnosis but i don't know what the treatment path is and now I'm evaluating a bunch of that was like actually the most stressful for me as a control freak because I felt like I had an ability to potentially change the outcome based on how we steered the treatment path and I didn't feel like I had full information. So anyway, I say that all to say that I think we should talk about like cancer care and sick care and any sort of health care as more than just cures.

5. 16:26

   So much of it is, I mean, even talk about the preventative all the way upstream. right if there were things that you could we could have all done you know the first question they ask when you have lymphoma patient is like did you smoke did you have birds in the house you know there's even so there's a really long journey here and I think um the promise of what this technology and and I think we're already living it in some ways but there's so much more to come in the future is really how it can transform that whole journey yeah um right and and so yes I do think um I do think when you see what's happening with the latest models what they're doing in the fields of mathematics, for example.

6. 16:59

   You have to believe if we come together as an ecosystem, which we should, to solve these important problems, like some of the diseases that have eluded cures, we can have some new scientific breakthroughs, but I think we would be fools to only focus on just that piece. We should focus on the whole thing.