Real Alpha has cut 2 moments of John Coogan (Co-host, TBPN) talking, from an interview on TBPN published Oct 9, 2026.
What John Coogan said
Open-source models trail closed ones by about six months
“This is different because we're getting this capability before we've really characterized the shape of the threat.”
John Coogan6:21 Locking down open source clashes with crypto's libertarian roots
“the doom scenario becomes like way more human enabled if you are able to amass capital pretty quickly as a rogue agent.”
John Coogan11:00
The episode
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